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[Business Insider] Look Who Made the Top 20 Ball Hog List in Houston. You'll Never Guess Who.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JasonXXX, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. MaxRider

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    Harden is not ball hog he passes the ball he just hold the ball and let the shotclock run down to 5 seconds then pass it
     
  2. Easy

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    Well, whatever that list is, it sure shows that Gay is on Durant's level.
     
  3. cn0gd

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    not only raw but wrong. pass rate did not show how long the guy hold the ball. if one hold the ball for 20s then pass it out every time then he pad 100% pass rate in this chart, a lot of guys in this tread would think he is a perfect passer.

    imo it's so simple that i even suspect the author or OP try to trollolololol you guys.
     
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    who said he was useless?

    he was perfect for the Celtics style of play. with Bird the playmaker, Ainge the outside shooter, DJ the stopper, Parish manning the middle, Mchale was the ultra reliable low post scorer.

    tough though if the team's playmaker is also the one handling the ball for 15 out of the 24 seconds of the shot clock, or is the one hoisting up most of the shots.

    there's a difference. my point was that Mchale either allows it or can't stop it.
     
  8. langal

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    Is Harden the only starting point guard on the list?
     
  9. Rox23

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    The list is anyhow telling. None of these guys are ball handlers. Harden is the primary ball handler on our team and is on this list. Take away the catch-and-shoot guys on this list and Harden is the ISO KING.
     
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    If you sort their stats by field goals attempted per game, Carmelo Anthony's FGApg is [20.2].

    # Player,Team FGApg
    1 LaMarcus Aldridge, POR 20.5
    2 Carmelo Anthony, NYK 20.2
    3 Kyrie Irving, CLE 19.3
    4 Al Jefferson, CHA 19.0
    5 Kevin Love, MIN 19.0 16
    6 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC 19.0
    7 Bradley Beal, WAS 18.8
    8 Kevin Durant, OKC 18.0
    9 Russell Westbrook, OKC 17.8
    10 Paul George,IND 17.7 21
    11 Rudy Gay, TOR 17.6
    12 James Harden, HOU 17.3

    more...
    http://ns.twhappy.com/?select=14,leader,total,fgapg,all,all
     
  11. torocan

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    To be fair, you should read the actual article.

    They specifically define pass rate, and more importantly context.

    IE, toss out those that are finishers who only mainly receive the ball when they are expected to shoot.

    The one thing that the stats point out is that Harden is the only primary ball handler (PG role) that would fall on that list. In other words, he looks mainly for his own shot.
     
  12. TJ VS TR

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    ~lol~ Interesting, he wants Lin to become more like him! (6th men are usually gunners)
    +1
    So Westbrook is getting unwarranted heat?
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I don't really have any problem with that.
     
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    Shet I don't see Iverson on that list either or Yao Ming

    I wonder why that is.
     
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    Look Who Made the Top 50 "Ignore" List in Houston. You'll Never Guess Who.
     
  16. RocketsJumer

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    For some reason James hasn't been sharing the ball like he did last year. This team as a whole hasn't been sharing the ball as it did last year. Way too much ISO for everyone.
     
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    Clutchfans is spiraling out of control with the hate for our players
     
  18. Cstyle42

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    Must be A Lin homer
     
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    Guys simply aren't making shots consistently and on offense there has been countless turnovers while guys like Lin try to pass the ball or Howard tries to catch it in the post or runs out of bounds.
     
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    wrong way to go about the posting bashing harden, but truth is he is the only PG "primary ball handler" on the list. People say ohhh durants on the list etc fail to reealize that his job to catch shoot get buckets & that is hardens job as a "shooting guard"

    problem with this is he runs the offense here in houston he is mostly the point guard, so thats a major concern with him not passing the ball as much. The mian concern is not him as a player it is the system that he is in.
     

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