if by some miracle Clowney is there when we pick, sure, take him and roll with Keenum and get a QB in rd 2 otherwise, QB in rd 1
But history shows that perhaps only 2 or 3 of these guys MAX will go on to have a tremendous/HOF like career. Even if the Texans pick a QB, there's no way to know if they end up choosing the "right" one. Also, a lot will depend on the regime. If its this regime, I actually would feel more comfortable in their ability to "develop" a NFL-ready QB.... but if its another regime, who knows.
that's why you need to have multiple chances to develop an elite QB and why you have to select a QB in rd 1 or 2
they really didn't have a solid offensive line and defense last year. i'm still having nightmares from those aaron rodgers and tom brady assaults
A good and smart QB makes all your offensive talent look better. Peyton Manning doesn't always have great O-Lines - he just knows how to use them properly. Aaron Rodgers has often had bad-to-terrible O-Lines. Tom Brady has had some miserably bad skill players surrounding him over the years.. The benefit of trying to find a great QB is that they can overcome other problems and you don't have to be great everywhere else. And unlike a great O-Line that can come and go every year or a RB that might last 3-5 years, if you find a great QB, you can get consistency for a decade. The team may not have a top-5 or top-10 pick in future years, so now may be their only opportunity to get someone of that caliber.
but you can't always put all your eggs in a basket trying to find that qb on that level. some franchises go ages trying to get the next tom brady.
thats what im saying, yet weve been in a situation to win the last 3 games despite having none of those things except a great wr(who has 5 tds in the last 2 games).. we basically have a 4th string TE, an injured backup RB, and practice squad RB trying to pick up the blitz.. i dont even know who that TE was who was in blocking(#89) and got flagged for illegal hands to the face.. all things considered case has balled, set up the team for 33 points against the colts, 27 today.. i guess people want him to do some things that not many qbs would do. even if case lead comebacks the last games to win, the oline is still terrible, defense is still inconsistent, special teams is still garbage, and bullock is still fat..
You draft a QB no matter Keenum's play. Whether he's the future starter or not makes no difference. If he goes down what do you have behind him? No one. Competition also breeds success. If you have a 1st round pick pushing him and vise-verse it will cause both players to grow and perform better than if there was nothing on the line. This is one of the major flaws of the current regime. Allows incumbent players their job's without any accountability of play or competition to make or break them. This is where we have failed in developing and maintaining a competent talent level and why we have the likes of Brooks Reed, Brandon Harris, and Brice McCain still on the team. Even if we hit every pick in this upcoming draft, This current staff will still fail them and the organization.
And very few franchises manage to excel at every other position as is needed when you don't have a great QB. It's why it's very rare for the Trent Dilfers of the world to win Superbowls.
I'm still putting Brad Johnson, Ben Rothlesberger, Joe Flacco, and Eli Manning in the "good/not great" class. If Kapernick wins it all this year, I wouldn't have considered him to have an elite QB-type season as well. You don't need a super-MVP-Franchise changing QB to win it all... but I agree that the draft is the best place to find that guy.
In the past 10 yrs Brady, big Manning, Brees and Rodgers (the current Mt. Rushmore of qb's) have the same #of Super Bowl wins as Flacco, Roethlisberger, and little Manning (considered to be in the 2nd or 3rd tier). Any by no means were the Ravens, Steelers or Giants excellent at every other position. In 2011 the texans could have won the Super Bowl if Schaub was healthy. It's not necessarily about having an elite qb. There are a lot of other things that go into it.
I think Brad Johnson is similar to Trent Dilfer. I think the others are are a step up. Flacco and Eli Manning are weird - they are OK QBs in the regular season, but nowhere near great. But their playoff performances are what you expect of the Bradys/Rodgers/Brees. Its crazy how good Flacco has been in the playoffs - the last 2 years (6 playoff games), he had 15 TDs, 1 INT, threw for 1600 yards and had a QB rating well above 100 - against some of the best teams in the league. Big Ben is probably somewhere in between all those guys (in my opinion). Ultimately, I'd rather be trying to build around one of those guys and filling holes that way than filling what look like bigger holes because you have a bad QB and then trying to find the QB later. We saw, overnight, how much better all sorts of parts of this team looked when Schaub replaced Carr. You saw the same when Case replaced Schaub. I think when you have a bad QB, you spend more time fixing problems that might not really be problems. note: I'm not saying Case is a bad QB. I'm just saying that this is a draft full of high-level QBs and maybe the one opportunity you have with a high draft pick. It seems silly not to take advantage of that. If Case does well, you have two good QBs - not a bad problem to have.
If this season has shown us anything, it's that: a) It's all about o-line and d-line play b) Kubiak's system is played out and well understood by opposing coaches. c) Kubiak does not prepare his QBs to handle blitzes Case has looked great when he's not under immediate overwhelming pressure. Our o-line is like so much swiss cheese at times. Drafting good linemen fixes your run game and your QB play.
A lot will depend on which regime is doing the drafting. I think this regime CAN develop a QB with talent... but the question is, how high a pick do they need to use to get a QB with talent. The only QB they've drafted/developed was Yates. They essentially made Schaub into a 2nd round pick the year they acquired him, but plugged him in right away. Sage Rosenfels also looked like a viable NFL QB in this system. If its a new regime, I don't know what the right move will be. Also, while a good QB can cover up a lot of mistakes, this team does have significant holes on both sides of the ball... they cannot stay in the 3-4 without getting OLB's that occasionally demand a double team.
Only 3 of them have a change to even be good Johnny, Bridgewater and Mariota. McCarron and Murray are overrated. Mettenburger really come TF. imo Texans need to fix the O-Line and fix your secondary and linebackers roll with Case
