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ClutchFans Game Thread: Clippers @ Rockets 11/9/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. knickstorm

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    3rd game he was deplorable in a half?? Get real what were the other 2?
    Your poor understanding of what consistency means is the only reason you find him inconsistent. 14.6 ppg, 54 % shooting and 4.6 assists while playing inconsistent...so what are his numbers if he's consistent in your book?

    YOu're the same guy who would look at a baseball player who goes 4-5,1-3, 2-4, 3-5, 1-4, 0-3 in consecutive games and go "he's inconsistent at the plate!!!!"
     
  2. kwongadong

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    I agree. But it's more than half to half...it's shot to shot! Make a jumper, miss a jumper, make a three, miss a layup. He's missing 46% of his shots! He is more inconsistent than he was last year. Last year we could depend on him to miss more shots. I'm glad he's been benched...
     
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  3. TJ VS TR

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    Lin is right handed, so right elbow injuries isn't nothing.

    BTW, how did he injure it?
     
  4. Oracle

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    Let's not take this too far. So Casspi hit 1-4 from 3pt and Garcia 0-3. You cannot really make stats out of that. Casspi is still a 40% and Garcia 36.8% overall 3pt shooters. Harden hit 1-6, but he is 26.5% 3pt shooter this season.

    The take home message should be that Harden goes for the 3pt shot only when nothing else is available (e.g. drive or pass). Casspi and Garcia (incl. Lin and possibly Beverley) should continue to shoot 3pt shots, because overall they are beneficial.

    The real point here is the amount of attempts. Lin has made 17 attempts and Casspi 20. Garcia has made 38, Harden 49, Beverley 19, and Parsons 26 attempts. owever, Lin has the highest 3pt percentage 43.8% followed by Casspi 40%.

    In other words, the best shooters make least attempts. Only Garcia's high attempt number is reasonable, because he also hits them with high enough probability. To me these stats show incorrect decision making in the offensive execution.
     
  5. kwongadong

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    Hard fall on layup attempt vs Lakers. He missed both free throws as a result.
     
  6. TJ VS TR

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    Thanks! It really sucks that all three of our guards play with reckless abandon, they'll probably be constantly banged up, it's good that we have AB. I hope Harden and Lin don't have to draw so many fouls, how about play with more fluid passing and get open shots or easier layups for the bigs?
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    Sorry, but I was at the Clips game, and "two different halves" doesn't describe it. Lin was awesome in the first half. At halftime he must have shoved his head up his own ass because that's how he played the second half. Dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble....

    Granted, once Beverly went out of the game with 4 fouls, the tentpoles collapsed on the whole team. But Lin.....goodness gracious.

    And I felt like I was sitting in the Lin groupie section, too. Now I understand this BBS whenever someone criticizes Lin (which he doesn't always deserve) and s/he gets piled on. I've seen with my own eyes: if we didn't have Lin, we'd be seriously short of "Rockets" fans.
     
  8. Htownballer38

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    How did Howard play in the 2nd half after scoring 16 in the 1st half?

    How did Garcia and Casspi play overall?

    How did Harden play throughout the entire game?

    Or are you one of these jokers that want to put all the blame on one player?
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    Harden, Garcia, Casspi, and Lin were all terrible. Hard to win when that many players have bad games.

    Parsons and Beverley were terrific.
     
  10. Htownballer38

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    Exactly Rip Van Rocket.
     
  11. cfansnet

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    Those "LOHs" are often just trolls. You can tell by their join date and also they seem to come out of the woodwork when Lin has a bad game and so they purposely try to antagonize his fans.
     
  12. markusbrutus

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    Again sirs, with all due respect, we all could all debate about who played bad and good and how.

    But imo, the biggest problem we have is coaching.

    No one makes a cut except parsons, too many iso balls, dwight isn't boxing out for rebounds as he just jumps straight up, spacing is nowhere.... players lose their defensive assignments.

    All of this are serious coaching problems.

    Players have bad games, turn overs and shooting slumps. It is up to the coach to adjust to circumstances surrounding the game at hand.
     
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    I think there's hope if we ditch the TT experiment. It's failed; no need to turn it into an epic failure. Why not try starting DMo at the 4, and see if we don't do better? I like Casspi off the bench, but start him at the 4 if DMo plays poorly. We need to run.
     
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    It would also be terrific if they showed up for every game instead of 2/7 and 2/4 respectively.
     
  15. hamsession

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    McFail: Starts Hack a Dandre Jordan
    Rivers: Takes him out.

    Rivers: Changes defense scheme in 2nd half to prevent PnR from Harden and Lin.
    McFail: Makes no adjustments.
     
  16. Kerdaboy

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    Man the level of criticism for Jeremy Lin is at some ridiculous levels. The man has been nothing but spectacular so far this year. Go look at any other team and see what their fourth option gives them for production. Never seen so much irrational hate for a role player.

    The entire second half was pretty terrible for the rockets. We missed a few shots which happens but then the team just stopped swinging the ball around and it became hold the ball and drain the shot clock then get a horrible shot (i.e. harden holds onto the ball for 20 seconds, then dumps it off to Casspi, who then gives to Lin with two seconds left stuck in the corner...seriously???)

    It is the same problem with the team, once our offense doesn't flow our defense degenerates and our entire team's mentality turns sour.

    We literally only played about 10 minutes of team basketball(all in the first half), setting screens, cutting, swinging the ball to the open man/hot hand. Seriously why can't we do this for the entire game? Is it that hard to watch some San Antonio footage about how to play team basketball?

    The team has plenty of time to work things out, but things aren't going to improve if we don't actually start implementing the changes in game. We always revert back to iso ball to try to "save" the team be it harden, parsons, or lin (heck even beverley was trying to do some 1 on 4 drives to the hoop)
     
  17. mick fry

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    Rockets are just another underachieving Texas team. We accept mediocrity for some reason when we should be dominating. Just sayin'!
     
  18. Htownballer38

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    Hmmmmm Coaching and Twin Towers experiment..

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one before, but the Rockets again struggled in their attempt to begin the game on the right foot. The Clippers provided Houston’s players, coaches and fans with a strong sense of déjà vu in the early going as they raced out to an 18-8 lead through the first seven minutes of the opening period. Chris Paul was orchestrating LA’s offense as brilliantly as ever while the Rockets were scuffling to find the bottom of the net, hitting just 33 percent of their first 12 shots from the field.
     
  19. torocan

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    He was driving on a fast break and was contested, but the defender (I think it was Farmar) went into the air and their legs got tangled mid-air, with Farmar's momentum literally sweeping Lin's legs completely out from under him.

    When he landed, it wasn't a typical fall. He literally fell directly onto his fore arms before his legs even touched the ground. You could tell he was hurt because he stayed down for almost 5s. It was right after that that he missed the 2 free throws.

    He landed so hard I wouldn't have been the least surprised if the coaches had pulled him from the game.
     
  20. Htownballer38

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    Interesting:

    Beverley’s aggression got the better of him and he committed his fourth foul at the 6:24 mark. From that point forward, Houston would score just four points over the course of the rest of the quarter while the Clippers closed the period with a game-changing 13-0 run that extended to 18-0 in the fourth until Dwight Howard stopped the bleeding with a put-back bucket. The damage, however, had already been done. The Rockets got within four points of LA when Harden re-entered the game and immediately produced an and-1 hoop, but Houston got no closer the rest of the way. Chris Paul weaved his magic, Blake Griffin was a beast on the low-block and Jamal Crawford rained in 28-foot bombs as if they were layups. Houston’s offense, meanwhile, just looked completely out of sync for much of the period – just as it had during the latter half of the third quarter when control of the contest slipped right through the Rockets' collective fingers. It was a stunning development given the high-scoring nature of this club’s offense, but it was made doubly so by the fact that its undoing came at the hands of the Clippers, who entered the game with the last-ranked defense in the NBA.
     

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