[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Right, and according to history, there is less than 1% chance of an asian american making it into the NBA. Yet somehow this dude became the starter of a playoff team while so many scouts and nba gm's, who base their judgement on the history and numbers, pass this guy during draft night.

 

This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

History tells us it's very, very, very uncommon for a career .443/.336 shooter to start shooting .533/.429. Hell there haven't been many players in the history of the league to shoot that well over an entire season period.

Math and history tells us that small sample sizes can lead to skewed and unreliable results. You could pick and choose 5 game spans from any player in the league and find one 5 game block that makes him out to be a hall of famer if they did it all season.

You are acting like I said he shouldn't be in the league. I even said in my post I fully expect his shooting numbers to go up from last season. There's just no way they are gonna go this far up over the whole season. That's not hating, that's not doubting that's just reasonable assumptions based on math and history.

 

well now that he's officially on the bench, he won't need to worry about this anymore.

 

You are far reaching in your assumption that history will catch up to Jeremy. All because you want to bring this guy down? Come on man. Last time I checked, Jeremy is wearing Houston jersey and playing well.
If you want to talk about history catching up to players, what have you got to say about CP3's unprecedented start of first four games? I am assuming he was never that good and history will eventually catch up with him as well? GTFO. Support your own players.

 

Actually, history tells us that many players improve. Your "career" of 1 full season isn't really a large "sample size." If first seasons in the NBA were what you average for your career, we would be calling a lot of players "busts."

Not saying that he'll continue shooting at the current rate, but I certainly think he'll be better than his one full-season "career" average.

 

Bring him down? Some of you have completely lost it. I never said he wasn't playing well and you won't find a post anywhere saying it either.

So if I don't believe that Lin will continue to shoot at a rate that only a handful of people have ever shot over an entire season I'm not rooting for my team and trying to bring him down?

It's called being realistic. Just like after Dwight's first game of 26 rebounds NO ONE and I mean NO ONE believed he was going to keep that up. That's not bringing him down or hating your team that's realistic expectations. Expecting Lin to continue this level of shooting is not realistic. It's certainly possible, but not likely.

As far as Chris Paul goes, no, there is no way he will keep up this level of productivity over a whole season. He's currently sitting at a PER of 33.83 and the highest in NBA history for a whole season is 31.82. So yes I have my perfectly reasonable doubts we aren't about to see the best season in history from Chris Paul this year.

 

And that's exactly what I said in my earlier post.

 

I'm sorry guys i haven't read through the thread, i'm at work. is Bev starting tonight?

 

People seem to conveniently forget on here the crazy figures he posted in NY, when he was made the focal point of a team. At the very least, people have to admit he's well capable of posting the big numbers, given the opportunity. Any player who can boast holding the record of most points scored, in their first eight starts, since the merger into the NBA, is a player with something about them. I'm not trying to convince anyone Lin is some kind of Lebron or Durant but the guy certainly isn't chopped liver either.

I agree that Rockets fans should support their own players.

 

It would be quite a jump indeed and math does seem to be against this continuing. But interestingly enough, lol, the "eye test" tells me that there is a clear difference in his shooting mechanics and considering the second half of last year, his 3pt shooting may improve to near 38% or so which would be a great step toward being a more dangerous player. And it's not like dude hasn't had like a history of overcoming the odds or even breaking records. He's always up there statistically in something all the way back to college.

The reason why you are seeing and I believe you will be continuing to see surprising improvements from Lin is exactly because he is so raw at an age when most players are developed. His shooting, defense, driving, mid range, handles. All these he came into the NBA undeveloped. Dude just made it in the NBA purely on his raw talent, i.e., natural understanding of the game, speed, grit, intangibles. He's worked on it later than others and he is what you would call a classic case of a late bloomer. So don't be surprised if he continues to make jumps that is typically not seen at his age except among the well documented late bloomers like Nash.

 

When we signed him, we wanted "Linsanity". We did not want a "Chris Paul mimic". I don't know who told Lin to start playing like a traditional PG last year, but they need to cut it out.

The expectations for Lin is the same when we signed him as it is now. We want to see him play towards his strengths, which is driving and scoring. It's not unfair or unethical to put him in the 2nd unit, because the fact is James Harden is better at it than Lin. If Lin can demonstrate a superior scoring ability than Harden while playing in the 2nd unit, then we can talk about putting him back in the starting unit and shift Harden to the 2nd unit.

 

Lin will not have his starting job back, no matter how good he plays. Better for the team? I don't know. Let's see.

 

Again, Lin's not trying to get it back. He's playing better because he actually got better, and the team is clearly benefiting from that.

 

I am not sold to have him coming off the bench yet. Let PB starts a dozen games and we will probably know more.

 

I has a feeling that Harden will leave Blake open for THREEssssssssssss

 

I am really impressed with MIA to contain CP3 as a team effort.
But he still gets 9pts 9ast by Q3.

 

no matter how you twist it, from first option to "improve towards bench" with player did nothing wrong, in any organization it's an stink unfair treatment. and like I said b4, try to twist it by shifting the issue from Lin/Bev to Harden/Lin, stink it up more.

 

I shouldn't have to say this, but all NBA players sign with the understanding that their performance dictates their position on the team.

If Lin wants to be on the starting team, then he needs to play better than Harden or Parsons. There are no free handouts in the NBA, despite what Rocye White thinks.

 

lol, you think Parsons has been playing better than Lin?

 

So he has to play better than Harden, but playing better than Beverley is irrelevant?