[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

While I do think there is a lof of bias when it comes to Lin, I do think he gets a lot of it because he does some stupid things sometimes. Aesthetically, he doesn't pass the "eye ball test" so to speak. Generally speaking, NBA caliber points guards are out of control. Lin "seems" like he's out of control all the time. NBA guards don't air ball 3's. Lin does.

I love Lin, but a lot of the criticism is self inflicted. Not that he isn't effective or a good player, but he doesn't "look" like one. Heck, I cringe everytime he takes a jump shot.

I'm trying to think of a similar player. Coming from New York, the only player I can think of is Eli Manning.

 

I meant "NOT" out of control regarding NBA calibre point guards.

 

The thing is that the people who overly praise Beverley's D mainly do so to annoy LOFs, because that's the perceived facet of Beverley's game that may be considered better than Lin's. However, stats (over a larger sample size and against starter PGs) say Lin is roughly the same defensively and he's proven himself over a season against starting opposition. It has yet to be seen if Beverley can lock down starting PGs over the course of a season, so we shall have to wait and see. Beverley is progressing his game nicely, as is Lin, so Rockets fans are lucky to have depth at the PG position.

From a Rockets point of view, if they believe Lin can do more damage with the second unit and with Harden out, then Lin coming off the bench is a logical move. From a Lin-centric view, if he's unhappy playing from off the bench or with the second unit, then he should voice his opinion more and stop being so submissive. I get the feeling McHale relies on Lin not liking to rock the boat and he's become McHale's whipping boy. Lin should fight his corner if he's deeply unhappy with the role he's given. Being a nice guy isn't always a good thing. Sometimes a bit of fire is good and if he can bring that aggressiveness onto the court, even better.

 

Have you ever heard of confirmation bias? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

This is absolutely bull****. Everyone airball once for a while including JH. Where are you from? Mars?

 

Agreed, but none of us know for sure what's happening behind the scenes.

 

Good point. From what I see, a lot of supposed LOH's don't really hate Lin, it's probably more correct to label them as LOF-H, and I including the site admins on this as well (hope I don't get banned for saying this).

I've seen many of them purposely trying to push buttons of the LOFs, comments such as "Game, set, match" etc. They also press their luck by instead of recognizing that Beverley is being put in there for best fit reasons according to McHale, they act as though Beverley has been the better player all along and that Lin should be satisfied with his true role of being a backup PG.

These guys are just as guilty of causing this ****storm, it's too bad that the "LOF"s are the ones always getting flack from the admins here.

 

Nobody wants LOFs here. It's that simple.

 

Perception is everything when it comes to the media. You can be a great player, but if you don't look like it, chances are SOME people will not perceive you as one. Remember, this is perception we're talking about. Not what is reality.

 

If this was true, every LOF would be banned.

 

Not true. Despite what a lot of you think, Clutch is a fair guy. He doesn't ban you guys for no reason (i.e. not committing a rule infraction). Nobody outside of your own group has any interest in you guys polluting the board with delusional nonsense

 

All I'm saying is if Clutch doesn't want LOFs on the board, he can get rid of them easily. That's it. Which makes your statement not ture.

Don't you think it's a little presumptuous of you to speak for everybody?

 

I hear you. I think I deserve some sort of award for being called an LOF and LOH in the same thread. Surely that is a unique achievement lol.

 

I'd say it's even more presumptuous to think he has the time to sit around and ban every LOF on the board when they haven't committed a rule violation. He responds to reports and what he can catch.

I'm very confident in saying nobody outside of Lofs want them around. They have really ruined the quality of the board. You rarely see such stupidity on display and LOFs wear it as a badge of honor. Why anyone would enjoy being delusional is beyond me.

 

I just hope everyone is treated fairly,
For whatever reasons, just come out directly, don't play games. No one likes to be munipulate.

 

Harden airballed a 3 during Clippers game

 

All I said was if Clutch really wanted to, he can get rid of all the LOFs. I didn't presume anything about Clutch's available time or anything else you tried imply that I said. I would appreciate if you stop doing that with me.

I respect that we all can have opposing views and have disagreements, but in my opinion, the way you express yours would generally encourage more of the posts you have a distaste for.

 

Send him to the d league! Evidently he is not even nba calibur.

 

Yeah. I'm aware of that. But fact is that overall Lin is, uhm, not very convincing - more so than other players of our perceived caliber. Everyone does silly things from time to time. But Lin does it more than most. Heck even my mom who hasn't watched basketball ever until Lin burst on the scene, said, "Why does it seem like he's about to fall everytime he runs?"

I want him to succeed as much as anyone. But, the sad part is that he'll need to go above and beyond to start convincing people he'd a good player.

 

Some great points. Lin has somewhat of an unorthodox style and doesn't pass the eyeball test as a PG.

Jose Calderon, Steve Nash, Steve Blake, Luke Ridnour, Kirk Hinrich

What do those PG's have in common? They're all considered "traditional" PGs. Not overly athletic, but they possess excellent fundamentals, such as ball handling, passing, and spot up shooting.

On the other end of the spectrum, you have: Russel Westbrook, Derek Rose, Damien Lillard, Deron Williams, CP3. These PGs may not be your "traditional" PGs, but they have the skills to play the PG position as well as score points when needed.

Lets be honest. Lin doesn't fit into the "traditional" PG category. His handles aren't rock solid, and neither is his decision making and shooting.

Because of his speed and athleticism, I'd group him into the second category with Derek Rose and Westbrook, but of course, he's not nearly as good as them. Lin is a poor man's Derrick Rose, but if he could improve his decision making and spot up shooting he'd be better than the "traditional" PG's I used in the first category.