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[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. TJ VS TR

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    True
    Not true. At least not me making up things.

    Just becaue McHale doesn't play Lin as many minutes as his fans want or start him doesn't mean he doesn't like Lin, just because it doesn't mean McHale doesn't like Lin doesn't mean he likes him.
    This sounds biased. Lin just played better D last night than Bev. Lin is scorching from downtown. Bev's playmaking is nowhere near Lin's, sorry.

    Most popular? Like Tony Douglas?
     
  2. l4z4rd

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    lol. The extent of Bev's playmaking skill is bringing the ball up to mid-court and dumping it off to Harden.
     
  3. torocan

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    To be fair, Lin shot 40% from the 3 point line for the last 3 months of the season last year, and is hitting 43% so far over 4 games from 3. He also shot well over 50% during the preseason from 3.

    He's currently floating around 54%, 78% and 43% fg, ft and 3pt. This is over a substantially larger sample of games than Beverley.

    As for the play making, "quickly" catching up is pretty far from how I'd describe it. Beverley really doesn't pass all that much, and dumps the ball to Harden or directly into Dwight in the post as much as Lin does, and when he does make a play it's usually to score, not to kick or pass.

    That's just my observations of course. Perhaps you're seeing something different?
     
  4. TheBigFive

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    The notion that Beverley is a significantly better defender than Lin is a myth. I've seen no numbers anywhere that support that assertion. I believe that lin will show this season that he's not just better on offense, but also better on defense, than Beverley.
     
  5. kastuul

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    Bev.'s D is not that good if you watch him guarding Reggie Jackson, Walker, Calderon, Lillard, etc.

    Harden, Beverley and Brook have a smaller body in their position.
    Lin and Parsons have bigger ones.

    When Harden and Beverley on the floor, they can't guard spot-up.
     
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    You have no proof that McHale doesn't like Lin.

    You base this BS assumption of yours on your belief that the only reason a coach would do anything other than start Lin, give him 35+ minutes and have him close out games is because that coach doesn't like Lin.

    Ridiculous.
     
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    I think it's okay that Lin's skillset overlaps Harden's. A bigger issue is that the lane gets too clogged for driving guards when Howard and Asik are both on the court. On the other hand, playing Casspi as a pf would benefit Lin far more than Beverley, so the decision may depend on who starts at pf.

    BTW, McHale didn't play Lin as a catch-and-shoot guy standing at the corner in his first 5 games. I'm happy that he got more opportunities to drive and make a play.
     
  8. kastuul

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    Beverley's FG percentages so far this year
    7-13 (.538), 2-6 (.333) (3PT) in 39 minutes (very very small sample)

    Beverley's FG percentages last year:
    .418 and .375 (3PT)
     
  10. TJ VS TR

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    I don't have absolute proof, sure. But to say that there is absolutely no clue is just as wrong. Here are some of them:

    He didn't think very highly of him last time he was on the team.
    He has a big ego.
    He said Linsanity was a fluke.
    He played Toney Douglas over Lin.
    He yelled at him and benched him whenever he makes a mistake.
    He doesn't let him play his game.
    He insists Harden have the ball.
    He calls him out after he had a good game.
    He said he would stagger his and Harden's minutes but didn't do it.
    He didn't let him finish games even though he has elite clutch stats.
    He first benched him in the first game ever in the Philippines.
    He used twisted logic (himself being a 6th man) as an excuse to not start him.
    He sacrifices the offense of the first unit to bench him.
    He let every starter play except for him even though he was having a good game.
    He is not developing chemistry between Lin and D12
    etc. etc.

    I didn't create any of this out of thin air, you-know-who did. So hopefully you won't wrongly accuse me of that again. On the other hand, there is indeed no absolute proof, so we can only point out the unusual hints and we'd just have to wait and see. But absolute proof's not what fan forum is all about, it's more about clues and discussions anyways.
     
  11. kastuul

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    I don't think Lowry or Dragic like McHale either, even they have a breakthrough year under him.

    The honeymoon between McHale and Beverley will end very soon.
    Beverley is more hot-headed than Lin.
     
  12. steady

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    I should mention, I think Beverley's 3PT percentage will go up. I can't remember what it was in preseason...
     
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    Lol... You need to look at jeremy Lin s 3pt percentage before you repeat what the media feeds you.
     
  14. TJ VS TR

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    We'll see. But what is wrong tho?
     
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    One ball higher than lin
     
  16. flamingdts

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    "I don't have absolute proof, so here are some random accusations that I will assume to be true".
     
  17. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    No, and no. But nice try.
     
  18. TJ VS TR

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    HK has no good English comprehension teacher? Random accusations and facts/quotes/clues are not quite the same thing.
     
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    if you call passing the ball to james harden a play making ability i guess so :confused:
     
  20. flamingdts

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    There goes the reading comprehension argument again.

    You are literally immune to any and every counter argument because you would just throw out the "you misinterpreted what I said" card.

    You could say the dumbest things, like below:

    And then come back and say "Errr no. That's not an accusation, that's a clue/fact/quote".

    Please, stop embarrassing yourself with the whole reading comprehension crap. You have no grasp of the difference between a fact and an accusation, and it's even worse that your head is so far up your own ass that you think you could go around accusing others of having poor comprehension skills.

    Use the dictionary and look up what the difference between a fact and an accusation is.

    Hint: This is not a "fact", nor a "clue" not a "quote".

     

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