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The reason the Clippers had such a good 1st quarter: Chandler Parsons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. bmd

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    I just rewatched the first quarter and was paying attention to the defense to see why they got so many open shots.

    While the entire team played pretty lazy on the defensive end and made mistakes, the person who really stood out was Chandler Parsons.

    He was playing extremely lazy on defense. He would get picked a lot, and wouldn't even fight much through the screen. This led to Reddick getting lots of wide open shots.

    He would over-help constantly or even flat-out guard somebody else's man when his teammate had it under control, and he would leave his own man wide open.

    Almost every point the Clippers scored, if it wasn't directly coming from Parson's man hitting an open shot, was a result of Parsons being out of position or somebody else being open because his teammates tried clean up the mess he left behind and it left the whole defense out of whack.

    Very lazy performance. Didn't look like himself.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    Reddick was Harden's man primarily, but Chandler was no saint last night defensively. Also, was Lin really locking down CP3???...

    Look, the perimeter defense right now just downright sucks. That's Lin, Harden, and Parsons. Even with Beverley comes back, there still will be major issues to address. To top it off, Asik & Howard aren't coming out of the paint to close out on shooters as well. Both are conditioned to drop back and protect the paint.

    So who do you want to blame today.... Harden.... Parsons... Lin.. Howard....McHale.... Obama..... they are ALL to blame... especially Obama ;)

    Its going to take alot of practice and a change in mental approach with this group to succeed at that end. Not one single person can help change everything overnight.
     
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    Haren's ball watching led to Redick getting a lot of open shots. Dudley was the one that burned Parsons.
     
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    Chris Paul was going to get his but you can't let Reddick or Dudley go off on you. Dudley was a nonfactor for the Clippers before this game but he hit big shots last night. Crawford and at times Collison was also a problem. AB isn't going to give you much on the defensive end..getting picked off left and right.
     
  5. bmd

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    It isn't true that Reddick was Harden's man primarily.

    Harden guarded Reddick for only a few possession at the very start of the quarter. Then Parsons guarded him the rest of the time while Harden guarded Dudley.

    Lin didn't do bad on CP3.
     
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    That isn't true. Watch the game. Harden only guarded Reddick for a few possessions. He was on Dudley the rest of the 1st quarter.
     
  7. James88

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    It was a whole team effort by the Rockets throughout the 1st half. At least the whole team was in sync with how horribly they played defensively.
     
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    I would normally disagree and go re-watch how many possessions Harden played with Reddick as his man but I dont want to put myself through watching that beat down any more than I have to.

    Also, Lin might have held CP3 to 23 pts (which some might think is an accomplishment), but CP3 was able to come around screens and break down the Rockets defense with ease for open shots. The SEVENTEEN assists means something about whoever was guarding Chris Paul.

    So not only is that Lins fault for not fighting through screens, and staying with him, that's Asik/Howard's fault for not showing on the screens, and its Parsons & Harden's fault for not closing out on shooters that CP3 was finding so easily after he broke down the defense.

    Point is-... you missed the point by a million miles.... defense is a team game, and they were ALL guilty offenders last night. Some more than others, but nobody in the starting lineup has clean hands here. If you dont understand that then you are just trying too hard to single guys out that you want to single out.
     
  9. Pull_Up_3

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    it wasnt just the 1st quarter OP

    chandler over helped pretty much all game causing wide open 3 after wide open 3 not sure how the rest of you guys didnt see it.
     
  10. yummyhawtsauce

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    uh, no guard is ever going to lock down CP3...not sure why people's expectations are so high. I pretty much only watch Lin when I watch games, he's not that strong at fighting through screens so sometimes he has trouble contesting a shooter at the 3, after he has been screened. But Lin always puts in effort on defense, while he may be burned, his effort is there.

    CP3 is too gangsta.
     
  11. Billionzz

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    Or 17 assist could mean that the people that Chris Paul was passing the ball to wasn't being guarded well by Harden, Parsons or whoever.
     
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    Harden is mostly hidden in the corners on defense.
     
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    I wish I had the resources time to show the defensive breakdowns last night in video form. Alot of misinformation out there.
     
  14. tarzanman

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    It appears Chandler's mentality has changed from last year. Not only on defense but offensively he is passing up more 3's and injecting more pump fakes / ISO's and drives to the hole. Looks like he is trying to establish himself as a top tier player. I remember from last year's playoffs against OKC he said something like "It's a big task to guard KD but KD has to guard me also". Because one doesn't make that step overnight, he will have growing pains but hopefully it will pay off.
     
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    Agree. If CP3 is that easy to stop when he has great picks and screens set for him, he would not have been the best pg in the league. Credit to Doc Rivers as a great coach to have plays that maximize his players' strength. Instead, what did McHale do last night? He let Howard played so many post ups which is not his strength yet. He did not remind his bigs to come out to set picks and screens for his PG like Doc did for Paul. Only when Greg Smith came in, he was smart to set picks and guess what, our offense flowed much better after that and he had a good game. Why didn't McHale maximize his players' strength by set plays? Howard is way better at pnr at this stage. McHale should insist that he set picks for the PG and rolled to the basket. Hardly saw that at all last night and one of the reasons we lost besides the bad D and Harden bricking his shots.
     
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    Post game interview after the Jazz game he said he was battling a cold. Maybe the cold has taken its told on his body and he was too tired in last nights game.
     
  17. bmd

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    1. I only re-watched the first quarter. I would let the play go and see who scored, then I rewinded it to see WHY that guy scored. So I was watching every single possession the Clippers had. Harden guarded Reddick for only 3 possessions if I remember correctly. Chandler and Harden were alternating who guarded Reddick and who guarded Dudley for the first 2 or 3 minutes. And then Chandler guarded Reddick for the rest of the quarter.

    2. Like I said, I only watched the first quarter, and Lin's defense was fine. The reason why Chris Paul had so many assists is because guys like Reddick were wide open, and Chris Paul simply had to pass them the ball for a wide open shot.

    3. You are right in the sense that the whole team didn't play good defense. That is true. But in the first quarter, nearly every basket was the result of Parsons doing something wrong to start the breakdown of the defense.
     
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    Could be. I noticed him coughing on the court during play during the first quarter a few times.
     
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    great when one rocket is sick, it spreads like a plague. Expect to lose a lot more game
     
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    This is when too much bromance comes and bite you in the ass
     

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