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[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. Jeffey

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    I just did a quick google search and the first article that came up was this:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1524348-jeremy-lins-inconsistent-fourth-quarter-minutes-continue-to-stunt-development

    It talks about how Lin consistently rides the pine in 4th quarters in favor of Douglas and Beverley.
     
  2. raskol

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    This is definitely good sticky and i hope the other threads stay relatively cool and all the heated discussion can remain here. Once Bev comes back, it's gonna happen all over again. I don't envy your position in having to deal with this. One suggestion, how about granting a ban hammer and whoever is neg repped the most for the week gets banned. ha.
     
  3. garfangle

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    Regardless, get well Bev.
     
  4. Jeffey

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    Jeremy did end up playing more minutes in general but getting benched down the stretch was pretty embarrassing as no other starting PG in the league received such treatment. There are tons of articles on the net talking about this if you do a quick search. I'm surprised this does not ring a bell to you as it did to many observers.
     
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    Yes, the article says Lin played a minute and a half in the 4th quarter and that he was in foul trouble. As I said, Douglas finished some games, but Lin was not routinely pulled for the entire 4th quarter in numerous games as you made it sound. Lin was pulled for parts of the 4th quarter in some games. That's how I remember it.
     
  6. Jeffey

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    Fair enough, saying the entire 4th was a bit of a stretch but the pattern of benching him down the stretch of games still raised a lot of eyebrows as it was not a customary practice for any starting pg in the league. A lot of "non-LOFs" took note of the short leash as well so I'm not just imagining things.
     
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    Yes, he did get pulled down the stretch in some games. I don't deny that. He did not get pulled for the entire 4th quarter for a large part of the season as you made it sound. I don't care if he got embarrassed by being benched. I agreed with Lin being benched at the time.
     
  8. LikeMike

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    Well at the end of games Harden was doing all the ballhandling - so the PG needes to take care of the ball, hit open 3s and defend his man. At times Lin struggled with all three of those things. Douglas hit several clutch threes, Beverly was a nasty defender. McHale did what he thought was best for the team, and the Rockets won a lot of those games. It is not about putting a player into a position to succeed - it is about putting a team into a position to succeed.

    Don`t get me wrong, I like Lin - I would even call myself a Lin fan. But people need to stop only looking at things only from Lins perspective (and his perspective is probably a lot more humble than the ones of his fans) and accept a coach going at things differently.
     
  9. ccrystal99

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    hope so and agree.
     
  10. Jeffey

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    Agreed, but it's still an anomaly however you look at it, and there was reason for fans to raise their eyebrows. This is not looking at it simply from an LOF perspective when a lot of regular posters have taken notice of the short leash as well. If the coaches thought that Lin was not best suited to finish a lot of the games, which again I stress was an anomaly because he was the only starting PG in the entire league to have this done to, then one could assume that the coaches didn't think too highly of him no?

    Why I brought that up is because I think that this year will be different. Despite Beverley being appointed the starter early on, I believe that they're going to appreciate the value of a Jeremy Lin a bit more since the stakes are higher this year.
     
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    They brought Lin back into something like 2-4 minutes left in the 4th, when the game was lost, or it was too far away to climb back in. Remember Portland game?
     
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    I think McHale should start Brooks while Beverly is recovering. As stated in many threads, Jeremy Lin doesn't FIT the starting unit and he is best with the bench unit.

    Starting Jeremy Lin who doesn't FIT the starting unit will just spell trouble for Houston in the long run. The coaches must do all they can to keep Jeremy Lin from playing with the starting unit. If that involves benching him for good then that's what they should do.
     
  13. Jeffey

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    That is the perception, but statistics show that Harden is actually more efficient w/ Lin (higher shooting %) because he doesn't have to work as hard for his baskets. The perception is also that Beverley is the better lock-down defender but Lin has done pretty well the past few games against starting PGs.

    Since Harden plays so many minutes a game, is there really such thing as a true 2nd minute on this team?
     
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    2nd unit, not second minute lol.
     
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    Please don't push a fight to extreme. Now Lin has played well in Beverley's absence, let's see what coach will do when Beverley returns. Give him a chance to re-access the situation, and maybe a change of mind? It doesn't help Lin if you keep ridicule members associated with the team. By the way, I am a Lin fan, and I think Lin should be a starter.
     
  16. Jeffey

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    I think he's trolling, we took the bait.
     
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    LOL. You guys did.
     
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    Against LAC, I really think we should start AB. The more games JLin starts, the harder coach McHale will feel to put PB back in the starting position when he fully recovers.
     
  19. garfangle

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    AB has been a non-factor this season.
     
  20. mastathor

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    Great point. Another reason why Brooks should start. If Jeremy Lin plays better and better while Beverly is out. The coaching staff might reconsider starting him for good and that's bad.

    Beverly is the starter of this team and he earned that spot. The bench is where Jeremy Lin belongs cause that's where he FITs.
     
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