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With 3:58 remaining and a 17 pt lead.....why

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Ultimate6thMan, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. Rockets2K

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    What is especially hilarious is his condescending attitude towards others that are stupid enough to waste their time arguing with him after he showed that there was no reasoning with him because of his McHale bias. Only someone with a major league amount of hate for someone would put so much energy into a thread nitpicking a decision that 25 out of 30 NBA coaches would make every day....especially since it did not result in a loss. If it was a loss I could almost understand, but the game was never in doubt.

    I cant be the only person here seriously questioning the OP's claim to have watched basketball for over 30 years....am I? His serious lack of sense about how the NBA game is played tells me if he has actually watched for that long, he has totally failed to learn anything about the game and how it is played at the NBA level.

    Sorry hoss, not buying it. I *actually* have been a student of the game for over 40 years, and I find this thread beyond silly.


    oh. and btw...finding a couple random posters on the internet that agree with you is NOT a valid source for backing up your fringe opinion.
     
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    this. most coaches would have done what mchale did in that situation.
     
  3. IndoRockets

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    If we still put our starters against Dallas scrubs on a 17 points lead under 4 minutes to go, and suddenly Harden or other guys go down injured, this place would have gone ballistic
     
  4. TJ VS TR

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    I'm glad.
     
  5. Ultimate6thMan

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    You know I tried to leave this thread alone. But these self appointed forum gods think that because they scream the loudest that they are absolutely right and anyone that disagrees with them is an idiot, stupid or shouldn't be allowed to post on forums. They are WORSE than LOFs or anyone else that they claim about.

    To act as if a game that is within 5 points with 21 seconds left is not a cause for concern, is ignorant of the facts of life in the NBA. To accuse me of not knowing basketball because I say that a game that close was in jeopardy, means that you are biased and not looking at the facts.

    It doesn't bother me that these people call me names or flame me for this thread. I look at them like members of the tea party that believe just because they scream the loudest, that they are morally and absolutely correct. It's just a sad fact of this forum and life. But I don't let it bother or stop me from expressing my views peacefully.

    They act like McHale is their god and if you question anything he does, you are an idiot. :rolleyes:
     
  6. d12babymamas

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    My apologies if I inadvertently offended you in anyway. Wasn't trying to be a jerk, but I think the better question would have been NOT why Mchale did that, but why our bench allowed that to happen and what Mchale has done to address this issue. I'm pretty sure he already has and will think twice about clearing the bench with that particular group. (Granted he probably should have left Asik in and waited another 58 seconds just to be safer.)
     
  7. Ultimate6thMan

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    We are more than cool my friend!

    My main problem wasn't just that he cleared the bench, but that the lineup he put in was not one that could sustain a lead against any team because of the bad out of position and chemistry issue with a Brooks, Brewer, DMo, Jones and Smith lineup.

    But just like you said, hopefully he already has and will think twice about clearing the bench with that particular group again!

    Btw, Asik had already fouled out by the time this happened. Hence why I said he should probably have left Lin and Garcia in at minimum, if not also Parsons for another two minutes.
     
  8. bongman

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    I think you missed some factual info here... They did sustain a lead and never gave it up. Nobody is arguing that it was not a lineup you would NORMALLY put in but the coach felt that we had a big enough lead playing against reserves - it was good enough to win us the game. He was correct. If we lost, then we will wholeheartedly agree with your comments.
     
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    We can keep this thread alive as long as you guys want. I tried to leave it alone, but if you want to keep debating and discussing it, I'm fine with that.

    The fact is that we lost our large lead and it got as close as 5 points. That's what I mean when I say that they were not able to sustain the lead. I mean the 17 point lead that we had.

    The point was NOT that we lost the game, because we actually won the game and that is a fact. The point was that I HOPE MCHALE ACTUALLY REALIZES that making that change, that way, at that time was a BAD IDEA and that we COULD HAVE LOST THE GAME.
     
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  11. Ultimate6thMan

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    You don't say? :rolleyes:
     
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    we need to start making tip jar wagers on bold promises like this one.

    we all knew you couldn't let this one go...
     
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    Like Judge Judy would say, should would coulda. WE WON. When will YOU realize that what Mchale did is common in the league and what he did was statistically sound? I don't understand how you can view Mchale - somebody who has tons of experience in this league and has seen all sorts of circumstances and not know the possibility of losing. You are sounding like somebody who knows how to access webmd.com telling a doctor how to do his job. Frankly speaking, it is quite silly.
     
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    You can always contribute to the tip jar whenever you are ready. You don't need me for that.

    And you don't know me, you just think you do.
     
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    With over 40 posts on this thread thus far, I'd bet he will go well over 50 in a futile attempt to defend his position...may be a record for futility.
     
  16. Ultimate6thMan

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    You can worship McHale all you won't. He hasn't proven anything as a coach to me. So far, he is okay. He has been blessed with a great team of the Rockets, and I'm hoping that he can step up to the plate and be the coach that we need to take us to a Championship.

    Statistically speaking, teams consistently overcome large deficits in the NBA to win games, more than ANY OTHER MAJOR SPORT in the world! Yours and others lack of recognizing this is actually quite silly and pathetic.
     
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    So you have nothing to add but count how many posts I make in a thread that I started? Obviously if I started the thread, it means I am highly interested in the subject matter. What about that can't you comprehend?

    Obviously you have nothing to add to the discussion and are just a troll like others. Seriously, what is with you people that if you don't want to discuss the topic, you feel like you have to say something to insult someone else?

    I can guarantee you that you don't go around in public doing this in face to face discussions. The internet makes everyone feel empowered I guess. I discuss this in here just like I would in public, but I bet you and some others wouldn't do the same.
     
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    Misleading argument.

    Define "consistently". Do you think they consistently overcome the sort of deficit faced in this game?

    Statistically, how likely is it for a team to overcome a 17 point lead in under 4 minutes? Put a number of what you think it is, please. 20%? 10%? 5%? 1%? Just ballpark it.
     
  19. Ultimate6thMan

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    I don't need too. The fact that it is POSSIBLE is all that matters.

    Coach McHale made it MORE POSSIBLE by not ONLY subbing too early, but subbing too many players, and putting in a HORRIBLE lineup of Brooks, Brewer, DMo, Jones and Smith.

    Teams regularly go on RUNS IN THE NBA. It's not unusual for a team to go on a 15 point run ANYTIME DURING AN NBA GAME. These are PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES playing at the highest basketball level on earth. You can't throw a lineup of Brooks, Brewer, DMo, Jones and Smith out there and expect them to NOT get outscored on.

    Coach McHale actually put them in a position to FAIL! That's on HIM.
     
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    its also possible that you get hit by lightning what do you do to guarantee that never happens?
     

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