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ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Jazz 11/2/2013

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. trock

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    Great game for Parsons last night. That guy really pulled the whole team along on a night they just seemed completely out of synch. He's taken a back seat in the first couple of games, but he really does seem to know what the team needs from him on any given night. Very impressed with his development.
     
  2. Htownballer38

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    Parson will be due for a nice hefty contract. Les already stated that they will pay the young man. So paying Lin 15 mil next season will hurt big time. But Les also said that he doesn't mind paying luxury tax if the ending result is a Championship/s ( paraphrasing of course).
     
  3. cn0gd

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    TO is a boxscore stat and it's biased. you dont know what kind of TO it is, a bad pass? lose the ball while driving in a crowd? or a teammate's bad pass/bad catch? or it's just a foul but no call? you never know if you dont watch the game.

    IMO if you get nothing from you offense you need to take a more aggressive strategy to create more opportunity, the byproduct is always more TO because you are going aggressive, pushing the tempo and taking high risk/high reward moves. to cut the complexity of the analysis, forget about all of the stats on the boxscore except one thing: score board. that's what really matters. we just take it as a blackbox: are we getting more points than the opponent with this strategy? if the answer is yes, do it. forget about TO. if you want to employ this strategy, the total TO will go up no matter who execute it. sure you can improve ball handling to reduce TO and have better output but it goes to daily practice, when you start the strategy on the court only the result matters. so just check the theory with Rox game: when they employ this strategy did they win? the result is yes, either they pull a lead or reverse a trail. so why not? the aggressive guys are always Lin and Harden so their TO is always high, as long as they get result I dont care how many TOs they have.

    so if I am the player employing the strategy and Mchale bragging about my TO, I will just tell him: "Kevin, we are trying to win here."
     
  4. mastathor

    mastathor Rookie

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    If a player improves a lot then he gets sent to the bench. LOL! That was funny. Too bad I missed that.
     
  5. HoopFan

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    Me too.


     
  6. Htownballer38

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    Some fans have a problem with it.

    Some fans doesn't have an issue with it.

    Some fans believe in the, " If It's Not Broken Don't Fix It Method".

    Some fans believe it's best for the team.

    And some uses the FIT system analogy.
     
  7. Deniz

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    I couldn't watch the game. How did they play? How was the Howard/Asik combo? (only 18 Rebounds combined:confused:)

    Parsons 24PTS 12REB 6AST wow
     
  8. cujo

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    Jazz fan got a little too excited about first half i think. lol just thought i share.

    link:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...zz-leading-Houston-Rockets-by-14-at-home.html

    Comments about ‘Utah Jazz drop third straight, lose to Houston Rockets by 11’
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    Jake2010
    bountiful, ut

    How is tonight even possible? According to all the 'powers' this Jazz team wasn't going to be good at all... I love it when players send such a convincing in your face! lol.... I know it is only the half, but I bet by now only losing 2 games by 3 points each and being well on the way to a convincing home win the Jazz have permanently quieted down the nay sayers! But, let the second half unfold before us, and then act accordingly. If they win by a dozen or more, i want all the local media to get on the news tonight and offer a humble public apology for being so wrong! lol

    8:29 p.m. Nov. 2, 2013

    Little Andy
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    Well the second half is over. Jazz lose by a bunch..
     
  9. HoopFan

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    all of us here should let each other express his/her opinion and agree to disagree. It's what fan forum for;)


     
  10. Nawad70

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    They do have that chemistry.
     
  11. cn0gd

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    sure. the most annoying thing is it derail to LOF strawman bashing festival way too often. geez.
     
  12. Htownballer38

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    LOL hey I have no problem with that. You are right pimpn everybody views are different, that is why I stated the different opinions I've read so far. :cool:
     
  13. Jeffey

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    This is true. I could have sworn that after Lin threw up the airball there were a bunch of posters here laughing at it but they were quiet after he drilled the next one. Seriously, you're a Rockets fan but relish in the moment where one of your player flubs?

    I've been browsing this site for quite awhile and notice a trend. If Lin has a bad game, these posters go after Lin calling him a scrub. If he is playing well, then they divert their attention to the "LOFs".

    I'm not sure why the culture is like this here. I come from another major board (not as big), where so called LOF and LOHs respectfully disagree and there isn't the sense of great animosity that I see here.
     
  14. Htownballer38

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    I will be glad when that nonsense ends as well.
     
  15. WinkFan

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    Only thing any reasonable person sees in your post is bias. ****Bev? very thoughtful.
     
  16. raskol

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    And that there in a nutshell is the Jeremy Lin enigma and also why there are also different "factions" on this board. Harden is already a "special" player even with his 6 turnovers. Lin has shown glimpses of star potential but not enough to convince some people that his turnovers are worth it. One things for sure though, were Lin a young John Wall looking dude, with his über quick first step, one of the best and most penetrating guards in the league (!), intangibles (steals, deflections, high rebounding), and a developing excellent 3 pt shot, in addition to have broken records in his first starts, scoring 38, etc., dude would get much less hate than Lin.
     
  17. 34to11

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    Exactly. We have one faction on these boards who advocates and supports Beverley and another faction who, without apparent rational reasoning, are hellbent on heckling and antagonizing him and his supporters despite the fact that they know he is an important piece in helping the team achieve its goals.
     
  18. Jeffey

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    I really have no problems with Beverley starting, the only thing that irks me is how Kevin McHale handled this situation. He would never publicly say that the decision was made for the best fit, instead saying things like we have 2 starting point guards and will continue to alternate starts. When the alternating stopped, one would reasonably conclude that Beverley won out the role due to competition.

    I don't know if you guys heard the Jazz broadcasters say that Lin was outplayed by Beverley in preseason and therefore is coming off the bench. Most of the media outlets have been playing this angle as well. In this regard, I don't think it's fair on Lin as most of us know that he didn't lose his spot in preseason. He's still a young kid and improving, I don't understand why they would continually rattle his confidence even if unintentionally.

    Imo, his starting role was lost after the playoffs last year, they should have went with this instead of the meaningless games resulting in the inevitable.
     
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  19. Jeffey

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    oops, meant to post this in the other thread about him coming off the bench.
     
  20. 34to11

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    His confidence doesn't seem at all rattled to me.
    Tell me, why do so many of you seem to think Lin is so fragile?
     

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