[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

probably 10-0

15+ pts, 60% fgs +
3+ rebs
7+ assists
1 turnover
3 steals
5 charges taken a game
50% 3pt
1 blk a game

continously shut down opposing teams best back court player

 

I don't think stats matter. I thought he had a pretty good game but that game didn't persuade McHale to start Lin onee bit. He wants someone who can stay in control and won't turn the ball over too much. Lin needs to cut down on his turnovers while remaining effective if he wants the start back.

 

I agree with you, but what's the difference between remaining effective with low turnovers and being even more effective but with higher turnovers? As long as one is incredibly effective and contributing greatly to wins, why should McHale fixate on one aspect of the game and missing the forest for the trees?

 

Shut down CP3, limit the turnovers, and McHale might consider reconsidering. :grin:

In seriousness tho, am I the only person who (when Beverley returns) still want to see how Lin plays off the bench leading & facilitating the 2nd unit? If bringing Lin off the bench works and gives us 48 minutes of elite offense (similar to Howard and Asik giving us 48 minutes of rim protection) ... then I'm all for it.

 

Lin does not play the 2 when either Bev or Brooks are in, he guards the 2. Lin is the primary ball handler when Harden is not in. You fail again.

 

This is exactly what McHale means by the word.

 

Lin & Harden was Arguably one of the best back courts in the league last year. With harden taking best SG I can't see a reason why it can't be the same thing this year. I would hate to have to face Lin and harden. Its no stopping them once they drive

 

wow so many guys got let to a delusion. if the guy make quick move/passe once he catch the ball, even he got a lot of touch the ball is no way "sticky" because the offense in a flow. and when PG dribbling the ball up from back court do you call it "sticky"? no? then when he bring it up to front court and start PNR immediately drive and kick do you call it sticky? yes the ball is always in his hand until he kick out but the ball is moving and the offense is in a flow, it's no way sticky.

bang bang bang, bang bang bang, crossover after crossover, no on ball/off ball screen and everyone stand there look at you. ball stay in the same position of the court and nobody moves, the offense flow dies. this is sticky, not only the ball, you stick the whole team on the ground.

 

They have to have a larger total point differential when he is starting than when he is coming off the bench. If the point differential is bigger with Beverley as 6th man, then that is where Beverley should be.

Testing the hypothesis as to which creates the larger point differential is the coach's job. (Or maybe a computer in the back of Morey's office.)

 

Lin is not a pass-first PG and that isn't a good thing anyway. I want my PG to be a triple threat and not just look to pass all the time.

Lin is much better when he attacks and that's scoring or driving and dishing.

 

Nice! At first I thought CF = ClutchFans!

Me thinks it's 'bout dam time to cut down on the puritanical, childish, demonizing, accusatory and acronym-filled name calling.

+1

What you said sounds good but in actuality, the starting units predictably have an ugly offense so far.

The naming-calling aside, Magic Johnson and Bob Cousy wouldn't agree with you.

BTW, Linsanity was Lin, Lin Lin. The won every single game! The Knicks were definitely out of playoffs and after that they were L'in. Last year we were barely making the playoffs. Big difference. It wasn't just bad and lazy teams, it included the Mavs and Lakers and everyone wanted a piece of him.

 

Never said Lin was a pass first PG, only that he is a PG. He can play SG but that is not his position.

 

I guess maybe Lin is whatever McHale asks him to be. If McHale asks him to play starter PG, he plays pass first more. If McHale asks him to play SG for the secong unit, he shoots more. McHale also asks Lin to be aggressive but also have low TO's, but that's not easy to do. After all this is the NBA. I for one also like Lin when he is aggressive, but I don't mind his TO's if the game results in a big W.

 

So Bev played a grand total of 10 minutes in the first game of the season no less and that was enough for some to claim that our offense can not and will not produce with him as the starter?

Interesting....

 

I haven't confirmed this, but doesn't Lin's turnover produce the more points for the opposing team? If so, I think that's a stat to really consider.

 

Lin actually played SG in college. All his weaknesses makes sense when you keep this in mind. He keeps picking up his dribbles, forcing passes and jumping in the air with no clear exit. It's like he never played PG before.

It looks like he tried too hard to fit into the PG role last season. I remember him saying "The PG gets hot last in the game", alluding to the fact that a PG should get the rest of the team going before setting himself up for points. That's why he looked like a pass first PG last season. When Beverly and Lin are both on the court, the game flows much smoother, because Bev takes over the ball handling and play making. This leaves Lin free to do what he is good at, driving to the basket.

 

Doubt it since he was +13 yesterday. He's +/- is usually pretty good and the Rockets wouldn't have made the playoffs last year if your starting PG has a poor +/-.

 

to think it would be better with Lin out as a starter that played 82 games 2,4000mins last year, and we had one of the top offenses in the league with mchales read run & gun scheme ?

Interesting...

 

Not saying TO's are by themselves a good thing, but according to our GM Daryl Morey who is a big stats guy:

Its also interesting to note that stats from last season show that games where Lin had higher TO's correlated with a higher chance for a Rocket's win. It seems counterintuitive but some speculate that these were the games where Lin was more aggressive (and thus higher TO's).

 

I forgot we had the same team this year as we did last year. Touché