Four of the starters played over 30 minutes, Harden leading the way with 39 minutes. We play the Jazz tonight, so he needed to rest his starters pimpn. I was hoping we could have built that first lead up to 30 but we didn't close the 1st half out strong. The Mav's did by going on 19-8 run to close the 2nd quarter. But hey that's basketball for you LOL
I clearly stated it as a fact of my opinion, hence why it is here as a discussion topic. While I disagree with some other's opinions about my opinion, I don't insult them or try to make stupid jokes about them, but rather make points about why I am taking my position. If a player plays bad or makes a critical mistake that almost costs us a game, we discuss it, even though we won. I see no reason to act differently toward the coach. I have no problem with disagreement. Your comment was just stupid.
You do realize how r****ded this sounds, right? Making up 17 point deficit in 4 minutes means you're on pace to outscore your opponent 51-0 in one quarter. I don't care who's playing. Our DLeague team isn't bad enough to be outscored at a pace of 51pts/quarter against the Miami Heat.
Again, as I have said already, I would have had no problem with just taking out Howard and/or Harden at that point. My point is that it was like a "rookie coaching" mistake to take out all five guys playing at that time with only a 17 point lead and almost 4 minutes left to play. That's an eternity in the NBA.
It is not someone else's job to prove your unproven statements. Durvasa asked for examples of something you said you've seen happen numerous times. Here you go, start checking to see which one of these was a 17 point lead with 4 minutes left. I've done you the favor of narrowing it down to teams that have won the 4th quarter by 17 and emerged victorious. Enjoy.
So it was r****ded that they were only down by 6 with 30 something seconds to go, and only 5 with 21 seconds to go and we had a bad free throw shooter on the line? You don't think that an NBA game is loseable with only a 5 point lead and over 21 seconds to go? You think that game was NOT in jeopardy just because we actually ended up winning? Maybe you need to re-evaluate your position if you claim to really know basketball friend.
That was a not an opinion statement, you said it like you have a better idea of what it takes to win an NBA game than a HOF'er, which I'm sorry you don't! And since you don't insult people why would you call my comment stupid?
So you'll leave Parson in even though he was having a meh game and PF was the position we need to give the guys some run? You'll leave Lin in even though that's the position of the smallest talent drop off? Or does leaving Garcia in make that much difference? In the end, we needed to get all three of our potential rotational power forwards some playing time so we took out Garcia, Howard and Parsons. With a 82 game season and you're really trying to develop that 4 spot, that's a move you have to make. Lin to Brooks does not change anything significantly and you take Harden out because he already played 39 minutes
Thank you for that link. I was trying to remember what that stat site was because I used it a few times last year for points to make...glad I have it again now so that I can save it! Thanks again! I stopped looking at results after seeing over 1000 games where the opponent came back from being down by more than 17 in the 4th quarter to win, and it as only up to 2002. I didn't see a way to separate that down to the last four minutes of the quarter, but I think the link itself provides enough proof for anyone that just wants to see the facts. They can sort through 1000 plus games if they want the exact number. My point was that to my eye test, I have seen it happen many times, and that stat chart proves that to any reasonable person.
I kinda agree with OP, i think it was a poor decision , i know we've got b2b tomorrow , but with 17 points lead, imo we should at least left two or three starters to steady the ship, maintain the lead and run the clock down to under 3 minutes before we put in all the bench . Just because Dallas sat all their starters , doesn't mean we should as well. Those bench players won't just lie down there and let you run over , this is NBA we talking about, Lakers bench crushed Clippers two day ago, remember? I don't know why some of you said Dallas only able to cut down the lead because Crowder hit some lucky 3s . All i saw was our players left him wide open again and again, that's not luck.
I called your opinion stupid, not you. If you don't know the difference, then well....nevermind. I said his decision was a bad decision, which is supported by the fact that we could have easily still lost the game. It's an opinion because of the fact that we didn't lose the game. We have enough HOF'ers that have already proven that it doesn't make you a great GM or coach. I'm not saying that about McHale because I believe he still has an opportunity to go either way depending on what he does this year and the next. But just being a HOF'er doesn't mean you make all the right calls or that someone sitting on the sideline can't see a bad decision when you make one. If that's how you feel, why are you even on this forum making any comments because I'm sure you can't coach or play basketball better than anyone on the Rockets team.
Dallas took out their starters, and as a precautionary, since Dallas might just hard foul our starters/regulars, and since we have a game tom., McHale has to sit them
No, it doesn't prove that at all. The largest differential over a 12 minute period is 32. That would estimate the largest differential over 4 minutes at 11, though I'm sure it's larger than that due to a shorter sample size. One single example would help. I provided a thousand examples, but they were of something completely different and immediately grabbing at them as evidence of your point is wrong.
Yes, I disagree with you. I think you leave in at a minimum Garcia and Lin to play with Brooks and maybe DMo, Jones and/or Smith. Garcia could use the minutes and was hitting timely shots. Lin could have continued to keep the pressure on their defense to not let them get close, and if you left Parsons in, he could have just been a steading hand as a starter, even though he was having an off night. Subbing five cold players is never a good idea with that much time to go unless you have a 25 point plus lead.
Because this is a fan forum and I'm a fan... Of course I couldn't play better than anybody on the Rockets?!?!?
I clearly stated what my "opinion and eye test" was based off my experience of watching the NBA for over 30 years. If you disagree, fine. But the stats you provided show over 1000 plus games where teams came back in the 4th quarter after being down over 17 points, with many of them showing that they were down by many more than that. If you think that in those games, no teams came back from 17 or more with under 4 minutes to play, please provide your evidence. I have no intention of sorting through over 1000 games to prove to you that some teams came from down by that much to win in under 4 minutes, because I already know that it has happened even if I can't point to exactly which games. I know this because I have watched them with my own eyes. I don't even remember every Rockets game, although I watched every single one of them last year. Again, any rational person will know that with that many games of teams coming back to win games in the 4th quarter after being down by that many points and lots more, that some of them came back to win in the last 4 minutes as well. You prove otherwise.
Pimpn every coach does that though LOL. Ive seen some coaches put their starters back in after the bench surrendered a large lead. But hey we won and our starters got some much needed rest. Also put some blame on the players because they let a 22 point lead slip away.
So your line up will be Lin, Brooks, Garcia, Parson and only one of DMo, Jones or Smith? Once again, the 3 PF are the ones we needed to get in and get some run. So then you can leave Garcia in to play the SG and put Brooks in PG, but would that really have made a difference?
If the starters come out firing on all cylinders today would that make you think twice about his decision?
