[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Again I think its about wording and semantics. I call it a PG controlled offense, which is what coach D'Antoni asked for in his PG. You call it Lin dominating the ball. I'm ok with Lin controlling the offense because he is a pass first shoot second player. The ball did not get sticky in his hands during Linsanity, because if you were open he would pass it to you, or he would set it up so you were open. The ball moved well on the court during Linsanity. Harden is a shoot first pass second player, and I am ok with that too, because he is a SG. Not only that, he is one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA. A big problem last year was that both Lin and Harden both played best when they each handled the ball. Stats do show however, that Harden played even better when Lin was on the floor, because he didn't have to work as hard to get his shots.

 

I wouldn't consider Lin a pass first player. If you call Lin a pass first player you gotta call Derrick Rose a pass first player. In reality both Lin and Rose are combo guards who can score and pass. In fact, Lin is basically a poor man's Derrick Rose.

Plus, I'm getting the feeling that LOFs think Lin is some quintessential PG, but he's not. He's a combo guard naturally which is why he plays the 2 whenever Brooks and Bev are in.

 

Actually Lin knows how to play SG position comfortably because that was his position all through college. Like you said, that's why McHale lets Lin play SG and Bev play PG when they are together on the floor. Lin only started learning how to play PG position in the NBA. So yeah, I agree he still has a lot to learn and improve on. However, he has great court vision, a nice first step, and is fun to watch when he is on fire!

 

You've never watched the Linsanity games, cut it out. You sound as ridiculous as doe of those idiotic media cats who pretend to know what they are talking about by reading their cue cards when they don't have a clue about Rockets basketball. It's almost laughable.

Lin is playing the 2 because Bev can't play sg, Harden has no real backup, and McHale sees Lin as a sg and feels his offence doesn't need a traditional pg, not because Lin was not a natural pg. He's versatile so coaches can use him as they see fit, but if you saw more than one or two Linsanity games, his style of play resonated with a lot of us SPECIFICALLY because he played a team game and brought back traditional pg play rather than a dunking, self offense oriented pg ala Westbrook. Lin's main plays were penetrate and dish, penetrate and lob, leading a fast break, pnr usually with players spread out. He was not going ham on people one-on-one like Harden, though it's funny you think that Lin was able to do that, lol. Anyways, he was a straight up traditional pg and you guys are purposefully confusing the word "stickiness" to suit your agenda. Either that or you're obtuse. Which is it then?

 

And Lin was a Palo Alto's PG in highschool

 

That's an interesting comparison. A poor man's D-Rose actually feels a bit apt, when you compare their games. Most of Lin's really great passes come from the fact that you can't leave him alone and you are forced to collapse the defense whenever he takes a step towards the basket. It's his ability to be a scoring threat in the paint that opens up the passing lanes and leads to open buckets.

I do think, however, that he is a "pass-first" player in terms of mentality. We actually saw it a lot in this last game, when he passed up way too many open shots of his own in an attempt to pass to someone else and get them their bucket. It's a nice mentality to have when you want to keep everyone focused on the game and moving for the ball, but it gets aggravating when you know he could just be a little more "selfish" and probably get the team more points in the process (especially when guys like Parsons are just plain bricking everywhere).

High school positions are a caricature of what goes on in the NBA. Lin was basically the best player on his team throughout his career until he hit the NBA D-League. In amateur sports, the best player on the team has free reign with the ball. Yes, even in college.

 

i think if harden added more post to his play, the iso woes would fade. Since in the post you have to be decisive and can't hold the ball so long. You either dohminate your opponent or pass out quickly, then the catcher either shoots or swings the ball until he finds the open man. this easy hakeem school of awesome i'm preaching.

 

Pls. Look yourself in the mirror before you judge sb else. I'm tired of all these meaningless name calling, e.g. LOF, LOH, ROH.

 

okay so let us call them "delusional and psychotic fans here who prioritize their player doing good than the rockets winning"

 

just curious. during this game, how many seconds was james holding on to the ball before shooting, attacking the rim, or passing?

 

Harden should try to post up more though, there was a play in the early 2nd quarter when he's at the low block, put up a nice spin move on Ellis after the entry pass. Quite effective against smaller defenders.

 

Idk, Harden plays a lot with both Howard and Asik on the floor. Both would have to move out of the paint which would render them kinda useless?

 

none. like i said in another thread, he played stellar within the offense in the first half and PICKED HIS SPOTS to dominate in the 3rd when the offense staled.

wrong guy to pick a fight. I love ball movement. we're at our best when we do that.

 

And with just a few sentences dts is shown the internet bbs shutdown.

Ill expand to say that anyone who thinks Lin plays "sticky" ball, is a complete moron and has zero BB IQ and is generally just being a complete hater.

 

Lin also racked up assists and helped his teammates (Landry & Novak) secured their contracts because he was hitting them up on the open. Iso-ball doesn't give you stats like that, nor does it help you make your teammates look good.

 

The era of post-up Harden is almost upon us. A few inches taller, and he might be a better post-up option than Howard.

 

Yeah, I think I saw that too last night in the third quarter against Dallas. Lin was trying too hard to get everyone else involved in the offense. He made a lot of risky passes, some of which led to TOs. Dallas was slowly creeping up. Harden finally said, enough of this, and finished the game lol.

 

It will be interesting to track this. I agree he's been playing like a pass-first player, but I believe in his gut, by instinct, he's a shoot-first player.

 

Linsanity was sticky ball, doesn't mean he is a ballhog. It means the ball is always in his hands, which by definition is sticky ball.

I don't think this site is for you, you should go here instead if you want to ride Lin's jock so much.

http://www.jeremylin.net/

 

What record do the Rockets have to have and what stats do Jeremy have to put up for McHale to keep Lin in the starting lineup after Beverley returns?