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Omri Casspi cannot guard elite big PFs – Math or Myth?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Jabberwock, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. MazelTov

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    Enough with this nonsense, DMO is very flabby and soft defender, he has the length to guard PF's but he is very weak, I don't have problems with DMO and I actually pretty like and favour this guy but I would rather having an undersized player like Casspi or Parsons guarding PF like Mcroberts or like Bass for example because they are faster, when DMO was defending Mcroberts he didn't do a decent job because Mcroberts was able to knock down to consecutive threes on him, but when Casspi guarded him he didn't scored a point, Zeller did bullied Casspi a bit because he is bigger but Casspi fought him hard, Zeller finished only with two points.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, yikes. Fortunately I know you don't actually believe any of this, your bias is acknowledged in your SN.

    FYI, McRoberts didn't knock down "consecutive threes on him(DMo)" DMo didn't play in that game.
     
  3. jtr

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    You obviously have not kept up with the times. D-Mo is pushing 265 pounds this season and has hit the floor only twice this preseason. And one was on a flagrant 2 tomahawk chop in the preseason.

    Are you going back to last seasons games for your information? I have done a study using synergy that states showing in no uncertain terms shows that D-Mo's defensive failings are only in positioning. He seems to set up continually 2 feet further in towards the paint than is optimal. He therefore is 2 feet short in contesting shots after the ball switches around. This error is correctable in short order. D-Mo is actually good at post defense. Other aspects of D-Mo's defense are above average or even great (ranking 5th in post up defense last season).

    You can say anything you want about the CHA game. Throw rose petals up in the sky celebrating a magnificent victory, against one of the five worst NBA teams in the league. I do not buy it. The Asik/Howard duo together on the court came out on the negative side of +/-. McRoberts had 15 points against a supposedly strong defense.

    I could take more time and educate you further but I grow tired of this.
     
  4. jtr

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    Is Maz a "stupid is as stupid does" poster? I hope not.
     
  5. Kwame

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    The sooner people realize that Casspi is a scrub, the better off they'll be. Preseason performance doesn't mean anything, because the only guys trying are scrubs like Casspi. The regular rotation players don't care about preseason play. He should be buried at the end of the bench. DMo, TJones, and Brewer should all be playing ahead of him.
     
  6. daywalker02

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    I think he has the upside as an NBA bench player but you are right with playing Dmo, TJones and Brewer.

    If they are serious about the third year option, they should play those PFs otherwise waste of resources and 2 roster spots.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    Cody is a rookie.. he'll be inconsistent.
     
  8. saintja2

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    Yeah, he really can't, his rebounding is bad and we have no weak side help whatsoever if him or Parsons is manning the four with Asik/Howard at 5.

    However, if he can give us these kind of games at the offensive end consistently, it probably doesn't matter unless Asik/Howard are in really bad foul trouble because of Casspi.

    At the very least he is the four who can bust the zone defense if the TT lineup cannot get it going (which might be the case often).
     
  9. Alon Rosen

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    After The Great Casspi have killed Legendary Dirk...
    I guess all this discussion, good just like
    water under the bridge.
     
  10. Oracle

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    Aren't you a bit early with this declaration? Casspi played a very solid game again tonight. It was not a pre-season game. He will not be the Rockets best player, but my guess is that he will turn out to be a very meaningful player in the rotation. If he averages 20+ min a game throughout the season he will have a double digit score average as well.
     
  11. Kwame

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    I've unfortunately seen this scrub play too much ever since he entered the league. The NBA game is just too fast for him. He doesn't have the speed or quickness on offense, which also means he can't guard wings defensively. He's not big enough to guard PFs either. DMo, TJones, Brewer are all better overall players than this guy.
     
  12. MazelTov

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    I was talking about Dwight.... can't you read?
     
  13. MazelTov

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    Oops I was talking about Dwight and I accidentally wrote DMO my fault, but yet I'm standing behind my words Casspi is a better defender than DMO.
     
  14. Spiegel

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    Casspi after Harden was the 2nd best player for us on the night. Most people focus on his shooting and rebounding, but he is a pretty good passer to. He in the end hit some big shots in the 3rd when the Mavs were on fire.
     
  15. Oracle

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    First, we are now playing the 2013-2014 season. Any previous season has no meaning whatsoever for the present one. Secondly, the only thing that matters is the opinion of the coach of who does contribute. Calling somebody (anybody on the roster) a scrub has only meaning for personal emotional treatment.

    For instance tonight Casspi outscored the quartet Brewer, Smith, Jones, Motiejunas with just about equal PT (the four combined) when that quartet failed to score from the field. He also outpassed and outstealed them. In rebounds and turnover they were equal. In short, Casspi is presently playing well for the Rockets. I don't have anything against any of the those players in that quartet, but each one of them has to make himself attractive to McHale to earn PT.

    As the season progresses, we'll see which one of us got this right.
     
  16. RikSmits

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    I'm rooting for Casspi, so I won't call myself objective, even though I see myself as a critical fan, but didn't he play okay against Dirk, especially first quarter?

    Taking into account that Dirk is one of the best PF's in the league, I felt Omri kept him reasonably in check. He didn't get burned badly, stole the ball from Dirk once, made him work on D and kept him off the boards.
     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Casspi is better than Parsons :0!!!!

    Yep I said it.
     
  18. sirbaihu

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    Sample size growing...

    Blake Griffin is considered a top notch PF.

    We may have lost badly tonight, but Casspi certainly outplayed Griffin IMHO, on both sides of the court.
    (Even though the refs turned a nice "&1" by Omri on Blake into an offensive...)

    In short: Can anyone check some stats already,
    or will all the posts here be 100% hunch-based?... :eek:
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Damn right you are he played well. But oh... take into account he is coming off 3-4 days of rest.

    It proves Casspi's efficiency is better when he is getting reasonable minutes instead of playing heavy ones.
     

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