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Who changed Dwight Howard's shot where he sets for a free throw with the ball near his chest?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

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    Shoot 100 one handed underarm free throws.

    You'll notice your FT% of your first 50 shots is likely lower than the FT% of your second 50 shots.
     
  2. apollo33

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    back to the topic of dipping though

    I realized a lot of good freethrows dip their shots, Kevin Martin, Nash, Ray Allen

    But then I realized that one of the best big men free throw shooters Yao positions him around his chest just like Dwight, but he shoots it perfectly regardless
     
  3. Blurr#7

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    People can argue about muscles and body type but from a mechanical perspective it's a issue of not extending the elbow and low release point. Dwights shot is essentially a catapult. Even his off hand is on top of the ball, he need a simple one hand shooting drill. This is how I've coached shooting on many players and have fixed some really bad form shooters.

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  4. Billionzz

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    No need to be sorry, when you can even spell waist right maybe you should be called out :)
     
  5. Billionzz

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    That's a good point. Many people have heard how to shoot, and kind of know all of the steps but if you don't really understand the physics of what your trying to do it's kind of hard to sell coach or self correct.
     
  6. Billionzz

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    That's a good video. I don't play much now that I'm older, but that short single one arm shot is how I have always started warming up for years and I have taught young players the same warm up routine.
     
  7. Asian Sensation

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    Maybe he should start doing a ritual. Say takee after Jeff Hornacek since he was a good FT shooter. Hornacek would rub the side of his face 3 times as to say hello to his kids before shooting. Not sure exactly how many times Howard's gonna have to rub his face but it could work.
     
  8. Aleron

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    Yao started at his chest and was almost all wrist flick, lol

    but like any sport, it's about confidence and repetition

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  9. Alvin Choo

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    Guess who is at number 1 and its not dwight/shaq.

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  10. jocar

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    A basketball is too light for his hulk shoulders. He should take some steps back and shoot from the arch

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/98557297@N08/9430736149/" title="freethrows by jocarlo875, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2883/9430736149_4a7bb208c2_o.gif" width="400" height="294" alt="freethrows"></a>
     
  11. TJ VS TR

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    Cool. :cool:

    But actually, what I read was:
    Waste, definition: excrement. :eek::grin:
     
  12. IzakDavid13

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    ...get the dot to make the shot.
     
  13. bmd

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    You are out of your mind. What you are saying isn't untrue. People do have muscular imbalances. It can impede movement. The body is all connected. That's all true. And I don't deny that.

    But how you are applying it to basketball, and the conclusions you are drawing are amazingly stupid.

    His poor shooting has nothing to do with any muscular imbalances. He may very well have a muscular imbalance. But that isn't the reason he can't shoot. It is a mental thing and a form thing. 1. He has bad form. Not because he's incapable of lifting his arms enough or whatever kind of nonsense you are spouting, but because he tries to control the ball too much.

    2. That's a mental thing. For some reason, he has trouble mentally with free throws. You can see the difference between practice and games. During practice, he's more loose. During games, he tenses up. He doesn't want to miss, so he tries to control his shot too much. He tries to use as little movement as possible and tries to aim the ball in like he's throwing darts.


    What you are saying is that all of Dwight's problems... his lack of good footwork in the post, his lack of touch, his poor free throw shooting, and whatever else, is all caused by his over-built shoulder muscles.

    Which is ridiculous.
     
  14. TheRealist137

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    wow, before birdman got tats lol
     
  15. RV6

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    I already covered that in my previous post.

    I never made the direct connection between a muscular imbalance and missing shots, only between the muscular imbalance and Dwight possibly shifting his weight forward, causing him to bring the ball up to counter that shift. If fixed, it could help his shot or not. My opinion is it would.



    I don't think anyone denies the mechanics of his shot are an issue. The question is, why hasn't he changed it? If we know what the fix is and we're not professional coaches at the NBA level, then it's safe to assume those around him know as well and have made the appropriate suggestions.

    So either Dwight is just refusing to make the change or can't physically make it. I doubt it's the former because he knows he still isn't hitting them and needs to change something. The latter would point to some kind of issue with his body's mechanics.
     
  16. RV6

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    LOL. So, in summary, the science i "spouted" is all true, but i'm still out of my mind. This is stuff you didn't even know well enough to elaborate on a few weeks ago, but all of a sudden you know enough to tell me i'm applying it wrong.

    You're saying it's a relax/tense issue, which by the way i mentioned first, but yet you won't accept my explanation for that issue. It's just "mental" right? It's not like the mind controls muscle movement and tone. You just feel tensed or relaxed in your head and your muscles don't respond to that by creating the physical whole body feeling of relaxation or tension, right?

    Gotcha.
     
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  17. Rocket River

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    Sad part is . . . Players think it is more embarrassing to shoot underhand

    Rocket River
     
  18. westcoastin

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    Has anyone here considered that Dwight's poor free throw shooting might be a result of something between his ears? I forget where I read it, but I read in an article that Dwight can make his free throws during practice, but obviously struggles during games. He probably has a lack of confidence in his free-throw shooting ability, and his poor mechanics just compound the problem.
     
  19. bobloblaw

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    Would rep. :grin:
     
  20. Blurr#7

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    RV I agree his body make up could be and issue. I'm not as knowledgeable as you in that field but I know flexibility can be hindered by over muscular physiques. I just don't think that's the issue here.

    In my opinion, the reason why Dwight's form hasn't been fixed is the same reason people blame it totally on mental weakness. If during practice, he shoots better than 75%, I think coaches feel encouraged and choose not to completely revamp his form. After all, you know as well as I do, starting over would require tens of thousands of repetitions which would require more time than these coaches may have with Dwight.

    Basically the FT coaches are patches rather than actual fixes. Dwight has been shooting like this for quite a few years. Muscle memory is a mutha! I can tell you from experience, I've "fixed" players' form in practices and had them shoot hundreds of shots. But as soon as the game begins, they revert back to their old habits. I think Dwight needs one whole summer with a dedicated coach that will start from scratch, there is too much going on mechanically, mentally, and possibly physically to ever have consistency.
     

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