Patrick Beverley Injury [Update] Partial torn muscle, out 10-14 days

Can Aaron Brooks play superb defense? If not, then people are taking this Lin as 6th man idea way too far.

 

Tell me, what does Lin do when he's starting with Harden? What's the advantage? Lin is most effective with the ball in his hands. If harden has the ball, which he will and should A LOT, what is Lin doing to bring value?

How about Beverley? He's an elite rebounder, elite defender, and though we don't know how this season will shake out, he's been a better outside shooter (last year and preseason) He finds ways to be effective with or without the ball.

Lin's a great player, and I'm not opposed to him starting, but LOFs refusal to acknowledge what Bev brings to the table irritates me to no end.

 

Disagree entirely. If Bev is out you start Lin. I honestly don't hate bringing Brooks out as an offensive spark off the bench. But Lin's a better passer, rebounder, defender. He starts over AB.

 

this is completely up to mchale. morey said in his radio interview that starting bev was all mchale's decision, and he made it pretty clear before that he doesn't interfere at all with coaching decisions such as playing time, starting, etc... (but he could force mchale's hands by trading away players like he did with ppat).

if i had to guess, i would still think that mchale prefers bev to start even if we were winning with lin.

we won our fair share of games last year but he made the change anyway. and we legitimately have two starting pg's so it's not like there will be a drop off.

if mchale believes that bev is a better fit during this off season (and maybe even as early as last season), there's no reason yet to change his mind. we won the first game with bev as starter. yeah the ball got stick but it wasn't bev's fault. the ball would've been sticky even with lin as a starter, as it happened quite a few times last year.

i would want mchale to stick to his convictions (not that i agree) and at least let it play out and decide later if he wants to switch it up - we haven't seen enough to determine one way or another; and i would assume that he would adjust if bev/harden wasn't working out as well as he thought.

 

In the absence of Beverley, how about starting the guy who many sportswriters thought formed the best backcourt tandem with Harden last season? But wait, you think experimenting with abolishing the PG position altogether is a better move, even after the offense struggled last game?

This is getting ridiculous. Some people here would probably say that we should start Greg Smith at PG ahead of Lin if it came down to it. Fit! Fit!

 

Nobody want Beverley to get hurt , you hater.

 

I think McHale is toying with the idea of Brooks starting as we speak. He's a great 3 point shooter who can spread the floor, but the downside is his defense is nonexistant.

 

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Sarcasm, dude.

The whole board thinks fit is what determines who starts and who doesn't, except for the crazy LOFs. Just trying to fit in man.

 

Wish him a speedy recovery. We may be able to get by without him when playing lesser teams, but against elite teams PB is vital to our success.

 

and to add to what you said, even if the ball was sticky due to bev, he only played 10 mins. other point guards would have had 38 minutes to correct the problem if it was due to bev.

 

Get better Bev. Bev seems like a great teammate, like Cisco. Need Bev back, don't want to see AB on the floor.

 

Well, ****. I'd be so bummed of I were him He'll recover and then I'm certain he'll shine when he gets back.

And those 'jokes' about how Lin must be overjoyed about the injury...yes, he sure seems like the type to celebrate people getting hurt, right? C'mon now

 

If McHale wants to have Lin off the bench then he shouldn't start him for 10-14 days and go back. That's just messing with chemistry and roles. Not a good idea at all.

 

Strange wording, Lin as a backup to Beverley. I don't quite see it that way. I think a Harden injury would certainly set the team back, but I think the team can still win games without Harden because they have Lin. If Harden and Lin were both out, then that would be more devastating or if both Dwight and Asik were out. But I think with Lin out and Harden playing and either Dwight or Asik out, the team could still win games.

 

well beverely is NOT playing tonight, is he? i'm optimistic (not that i agree) about the idea of lin coming off the bench so you're barking up the wrong tree, dude.

i was addressing specifically to today's game. you want to start brooks?

and because you bought up the general question of what's the advantage of starting lin...

did we not make the playoffs last year?
didn't lin start 82 games last year?
did we not exceed expectations last year?
did lin not contribute third highest numbers of wins on the team last year, according morey?
weren't we all a bit delirious after the first two games when both lin and harden went off and lin almost had a triple double in the second game, with media annointing harden/lin as the best backup in the league?
didn't they not have multiple games where they combined with 50+ points and 20+ assists and put away teams in 3 quarters?
according to stats, didn't harden play more efficient (higher shooting percentage) with lin on the floor then not?

these are the advantages of starting lin. the potential for crazy efficient offense. BUT, with howard, him alone allows bev to be in the lineup and still retain the overall team efficiency, in theory.

now, i totally understand about the fit thing and how having lin coming off the bench maximizes his value and having bev in the starting lineup maximizes his and so forth. it's all in still theory and we really don't know how it will all work out but i'm all for trying it out.

 

Response

Lin seems this season just to focus on playing his game, whatever role he's given by coaches, and not focus on anything. I see some difference from last year.

 

No, I don't think Brooks should start. That's asinine. None of the hypothetical questions you ask lend any credence to the argument for starting Lin. Numerous logical fallacies and incorrect conclusions.

I am however glad to hear you are open to seeing whether or not starting Bev works out. I, in turn, would be overly ecstatic if Lin and Harden play extremely well together resulting in Lin winning the job back.

 

Response

Yes, let's have Brooks start and see.

 

Replace "AB" with "Canaan," and I agree lol. Thank GAWD we kept AB. I definitely eat my preseason words where he is concerned.