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[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. Play07

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    we had the lowest amount of fast break points out of any NBA team last night. only 7 FB points, last year the run and gun was our bread and butter
     
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  2. KlutchQT

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    Having Dwight will necessarily slow the pace some, but they did a terrible job last night at affirmatively setting the pace. We played at Charlotte's preferred (plodding) pace for the vast majority of the game... I'm not thinking that will be the norm, though.
     
  3. HoopFan

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    That's exactly my point. By the time, Lin came in the team didn't know what to do. TT got 40 rbs while the whole team got only 7 FB points. This is why you must set the tone at the very beginning so the team can feed off it. I didn't say a lot of connections and ball movements among James, CP and Lin last night as Lin played more like a 2 guard when he came in. I guess that this is required by the role of 6th man (this is why most of 6th men are either scorers or defenders not facilitators. Actually Lin is a better facilitator than scorer). The team had no chemistry until 4th quarter. This is why I am against the unnecessary change (It aren't broken, don't fix it). Plus with another creator in the lineup, the offense is less predictable. The other teams won't be able to gear up the defense on James like Charlotte did last night (I hate James ISO. He is better than that). With TT and PB starting, there is simply too much defense and not enough offense. You got have a balance!

     
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    Hate to interrupt the echo chamber, but believe it or not, Charlotte did a good job of playing JVG-style pack the paint and slow the tempo ugly ball last night.

    Let's give a game or thirty before we draw any major conclusions on the season.
     
  5. HoopFan

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    I agree they did an excellent job in defense. But we also allowed it.


     
  6. Fighton

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    based on morey's radio interview yesterday, i don't think any of this is unexpected or a surprise to the front office and coaches. they do think something is broken - well, maybe not broken but definitely not at the championship level and that's their very average ranking of #17 on defense last year.

    this is an apparent move to improve that defense but do they need to add both bev AND asik? or simply let last year's squad improve as a whole especially in defending PnR? i don't know. only been one game so too early to say. but if adding those two pieces took too much away from the free flowing offense we had last year, then I'm sure they'll adjust.

    morey also said the offensive pace will definitely be slower but will retain the same efficiency compared to last year. and with harden and dwight with parsons and low-turnover bev, that's what you would expect, theoretically. whether that plays out in real life is still yet to be seen.
     
  7. AggNRox

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    too much d??? very interesting comment.

    Regarding Harden's ISO, those super good players tend to do that because they know they can beat one on one defense easily unless other teams double team or triple team. to them ISO or any type play are same because result would often be same.
     
  8. AggNRox

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    well, we all know #17 is average. we also know what defense we had when asik on and off court.

    now, we have two starting centers with very good defense who can cover a whole game. by just adding howard, our defense should be excellent w/o making any further change.
     
  9. CometsWin

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    Apparently you don't know that one of Steve Clifford's main philosophies is to get back on defense quickly to prevent the fast break. Doh.

    Too much defense is a real problem in the NBA where nobody wants to play defense. :)
     
  10. Fighton

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    you know, i agree. i think having asik and howard, on top of what we had last year, should've been enough. but we'll see.

    i'm convinced, though, that harden can avg. 25pt on 12-15 shots, shooting 50/40/80 with lin as the pg and playmaker. it's been proven that harden's shooting percentage goes up quite a bit with lin on the court. it makes things much, much easier for harden.

    still don't understand why we're switching up what worked last year when adding howard would've been enough to improve our D.

    time will tell...
     
  11. CometsWin

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    Maybe less posting and more reading and watching will help you understand more. Time will tell...
     
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    Just like I was reading on one of the other pages if you have TT in Bev does not need to crash the boards. Its basic elementary basketball. There was now rebound outlet push last night when Bev was in. 7 fast break points off of the amount of what TT sucked up last night is weak. Should have blown them out earlier.
     
  13. Fighton

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    not sure when you're gonna stop stalking me ... time will tell.
     
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    Rockets’ offensive rhythm returns day after sluggish showing in season opener: Coach Kevin McHale and the Rock... http://t.co/yS2ZHxfJHB

    isn't this awkward everyone saying the same dam$ thing after the game then certain players can't practice today now the ball is moving, we'll duhhhhhhhh Mchale Lin use tiger the outlet pass and push the ball, we were nice last year defense was just bad when saki left the game, we got Howard now, if the offense wasn't broke don't fix it !!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Being discussed right now:
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=245847
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=241405

    Not true for most. Most wants him to play point guard and pass the ball.
    Um......confusing......some people think it's lunatic to think he is demoted and some people believe in this. Disagreed anyways.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    This is a message board. I message the board when I want to share something just like you post ignorant opinions when you want to talk about fast breaking against a team that promotes a defensive philosophy to stop the fast break. See how that works? Glad I could enlighten you.
     
  17. Fighton

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    when did i ever talk about fast breaking??? i don't see "fast break" or anything close to that anywhere in my post. i was talking about increasing james harden's offensive efficiency in general. not the same thing.

    now go use that food stamp and get yourself some candy for halloween, son.
     
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    Lengthy ESPN First Take segment today about last night's game. Lots of praise for Dwight, McHale, and the adjustments to the starting lineup.

    Except from Skip Bayless, who loves to trash Dwight and said that he only had such a big rebounding night because the Bobcats suck.
     
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    i am not sure what you are trying to accomplish. since you like reading and watching, why come here to write?
     
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    Twin Towers works against Memphis, Clippers, and maybe Portland because you negate their biggest advantage. Against other teams, it's counter-productive.
    On offense, you have:
    1.) a huge drop in fast break points.
    2.) less spacing for the 'superstars' to do their thing.
    3.) big drop in corner three's simply because there's one less guy standing at the corner. Corner three's are the bread and butter of Moreyball. Chandler Parsons shoots 50% from the corner and 29% from the elbow. It was painful watching Parsons trying desperately to 'get his' last night against the Bobcats.

    Twin Towers were outscored by the Bobcats by 4 points and outscored 29-17 in 14 minutes against Dallas in preseason. It's a small sample size, but we'll see more 'sample' the next few games.
     

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