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Omri Casspi cannot guard elite big PFs – Math or Myth?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Jabberwock, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. arusinov

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    You know... when Omri was in in 1st, the score was 9-8 after 6 min. Which means 1.33 pts per min for Bobcats (64 pts per game). I think it wasn't because of great defences - both teams just started bad and slow and making tons of mistakes. But anyway not defensive boost was required here to improve score but points from the bench. Obviously Casspi didn't provide it this time:(

    But when he was in in 3rd, the score of the qtr was 12-17 after 7 min. Which means 2.42 pts per min for Bobcats (116.5 pts per game). And there was urgent need to change defence.
     
  2. Alon Rosen

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    As we have witnessed against the bobcats, Casspi is a very very talented guard, both against Sf's, as well as against Pf's.

    Some hats should be eaten.

    All on all, we. need the Houston of
    the preseason form, to think about finals.
    But, we have time and talent to be around.
     
  3. gravityonme

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    I was a bit worried that Zeller bullied Casspi a bit on the boards.
     
  4. Zalgiris

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    DMo left Zalgiris like 5-6 years ago, why do you ask? You see me creating threads glorifying DMo?
     
  5. The Jabberwock

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    U see me glorifying anyone?

    I wouldn't mind it if you created threads about your countryman.
    I think it's natural to root for your home boy.

    I wouldn't think of making ugly remarks towards fellow Rocket fans that root to their home boy.
    Why do YOU feel the need to do that?

    Is it because you joined CF 6 moths ahead if me -
    So long ago that you already grew "Tired of fans like me"?

    (And BTW - DMo was ultimately briught back to the Rockets from Dleague for good in January 2013, exactly the time when yOu joined CF ;))
     
  6. Alon Rosen

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    (And BTW - DMo was ultimately briught back to the Rockets from Dleague for good in January 2013, exactly the time when yOu joined CF ;))[/QUOTE]


    Smooth operator - Mossad, anyone?! ;)
     
  7. asianballa23

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    who can guard elite big PFs?? That's why they're "elite" cause hardly anyone can guard them...
     
  8. The Jabberwock

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    A follow-up after 1st regular season game:

    No elite strong PF in the Bobcats, so no sample here
    (Next game with Dirk will also not qualify. He's elite but not massive in the paint)


    A look at our PF defense by stretch-4s anyway:
    The opposing PF was a mediocrate stretch-4 in McRoberts, and at times - Codi Zeller.
    With this kind - there's no question that our small-ballers (Casspi and Parsons) can cope:
    McRoberts finished with 15, with a clear distribution - ​
    • With Omri on court - 0 points in 0/2
    • With Omri off court - 15 points in 5/7 (Got blocked once, by Parsons)
    Zeller was no factor, really, and finished with 2 points in 1/5 - ​
    • Zeller points were in Omri's watch (Also got blocked once, by Casspi)
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    Are you comparing Casspi to Robert Horry? Just want to be clear how far you've flown off the reservation.
     
  10. Oracle

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    Are you kidding? There are very few Horry level players in the league today. We are mainly talking about Casspi's ability to be a real contributor to the Rockets after the damage he suffered in the Cavs. It is equally clear that he will not shoot the volumes he did in the preseason, but I believe that he will find his rhythm given the trust given by McHale. He needs fast game to shoot well.
     
  11. Zalgiris

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    You can guard Elite PFs, you can't stop them all the time. Casspi can't even guard PFs, not even to mention stopping, because he is not a Power Forward. DMo, Smith and Jones are all better Power Forwards than Casspi, but they don't get to play, because Rocket's head coach, who is a legendary PF, chooses to run team with Forwards, but without Power Forwards.
     
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    i'd put casspi as an undersized/part time PF, that's why when howard couldnt stop mcroberts shooting 3's, he got replaced by casspi.
     
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    Not really. Last I checked, Horry won 0 rings by himself.

    Put him in Sacromento and Cleveland and see how many rings and playoff appearances he gets.

    Using team accomplishments to compare players always seemed dumb to me, but particularly dumb when you aren't even talking about the best players, but rather the 8th or 9th man on the roster.
     
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    It's been quite a while since I've agree with anything you've had to say, but this is spot on.
     
  17. daywalker02

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    Sure. Being a clutch shooter is a calling card.

    Casspi hasn't even sniffed at that yet and I don't think he will win rings with 3 different organizations.
    HOU-LA-SA

    Horry played in another era, an era of no zone and other rules

    While I have the courtesy to check their respective stats
     
  18. Centerville

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    When you say "all categories," which categories do you actually mean? I look at one guy and see a career WS/48 of .118 -- a well above average player. I look at the other guy and see a career WS/48 of .060 -- a bench-warmer who will struggle to stay in the league. In what sense are they "nearly identical"?
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Ohh, wasn't Horry a starter earlier in his career.

    Well I think Casspi has more hops, athletic abilities and maybe a more complete game, Horry was a legendary shooter in crunch time historically.
     
  20. jtr

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    I don't think any hats need to be eaten. Who the heck is CHA power forward anyway? Josh McRoberts. Who? Every player reverts to his mean, Casspi included. Preseason is well, preseason. We saw the on court pairing of Asik and Howard actually outscored by CHA. Ouch! And I am certainly not hanging my uneaten hat on the Casspi peg anytime soon. The guys RAPM scores tell the story. Preseason is a step above RGV ball, but it is 3 steps behind the regular season.
     

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