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Could Motiejunas and Jones both move out of the rotation?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CXbby, Oct 17, 2013.

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Poll closed Nov 16, 2013.
  1. Neither Dmo/Jones - We are contenders - No Babies Allowed

    22.2%
  2. 1 out of Dmo or Jones - Still room to grow

    58.9%
  3. Both Dmo and Jones - I just want to watch the world burn

    18.9%
  1. Billionzz

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    I think I lot more of him then the best case scenario as a decent back up pf. He is in his second year and hasn't had much playing time and I would say right now he probably has at least a top 15 post game in the league. I looks like he has the ability to be a very special player, it seems like Rockets fans would be interested in developing and keeping him instead of just running him down and saying we should trade him. He is the best young talent with the possibility of great upside at pf that we have had in years. I understand everything is about winning now but that doesn't mean that you stop developing young talent.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    He played more than one year, maybe 2 years in the Euroleague and Polish League. That's a professional league, better than Dleague.

    He is already 23 years old. There should be no excuses such as he is only in his second year.

    There is no such thing as Top 15 post game.... He is just taller than a lot of guys and he uses the same post game than others.

    I did not see some creative moves like the ones Scola did.
     
  3. Easy

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    Neither Euroleague nor Dleague is NBA. Lots of players teared it up in those places only found that it took them a while to adjust to the NBA speed.
    I don't know about top 15, but if you don't see how his post moves are better than a lot of NBA players, I don't know what to say. He's the only big guy I've seen who could even emulate Dream's speed in his moves. No, Dwight Howard couldn't do it.

    Scola is exceptionally crafty. That's how he gets by with his limited length and speed. DMo is much taller and faster than Scola. What Scola has shown is that if you can score consistently in the post and can hit a jump shot, you can be a very soild NBA PF even if your defense and rebounding is not that great.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    Dwight Howard is no finesse guy but the real guy is Marc Gasol who is a Top 10 player because he can bruise down low while having skills.

    Dmo should try to emulate Marc's game.
    His game should be better than most of 2nd unit players now.
    I did not say it was no good but it could be better.

    I just think there is no evaluation of how good one's post game is unless he can shoot 60% regularly against starters or major bench guys.

    I don't know much PT he and Jones will get to achieve that.
     
  5. CXbby

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    They did almost as much as Casspi tonight.....
     
  9. daywalker02

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    I agree with you but your boy Casspi got outplayed by Garcia tonight
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Casspi was almost outplayed by Jones.
     
  11. Play07

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    Preseason does not count , casspi has to show us something, or we back to square 1 with a PF situation
     
  12. Play07

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    Preseason does not count , casspi has to show us something, or we back to square 1 with a PF situation... Lin & Garcia showed us what we knew we were getting off the bench from reg. season last yr
     
  13. daywalker02

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    It's only good because Casspi won't be able to go against 3rd stringers.

    He is going against borderline starters and key reserves.
    He will still have some good nights but I think his confidence is going to decrease.

    Both PFs will get minutes
     
  14. coachbadlee

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    One of these guys should have played last night. They are playing too many people out of position.
     
  15. MojoMan

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    Probably so. But McHale appears to be pursuing the Howard/Asik experiment with enthusiasm. This exercise will probably need to be allowed to run its course first. This could end midway through the season with Asik being traded, as this is a great way to market Asik, regardless of whether the Rockets really want to keep him long term or not.
     
  16. daywalker02

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    I think you are bit confused. GMs know now that Asik is a 10 and 11 guy. Nothing less and nothing more on Offense I mean.

    They do not know what players Terrence and Donatas could be.
    play those if you want to increase their value.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    I don't want to trade Asik. We should try to trade any combo of Jones, Motiejunas and any of the other non-rotation guys and a draft pick for a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson or so. Asik is worth tons more than Ryan Anderson, but if it could be done for any combination of these guys and a pick, I would do it.
     
  18. MojoMan

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    It appears to me that the Rockets may want to increase Asik's value. He asked for a trade and wants to be a starter. Based on his performance last year, there are no doubt a number of teams who would like to grant Asik his wish.

    But at what cost? Obviously, the Rockets would prefer to bid the price for Asik up as high as possible, assuming they are open to trade offers for him. If he plays reasonably well next to Howard, that could really help to increase his value. But if Asik is playing small minutes, sharing time with D-Mo/T-Jo, then probably not so much.

    It is not me who is confused here, sir.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Starting from the assumption that we keep both Howard and Asik, we don't really need the PF to rebound very much. We need a PF that can shoot threes. Even someone like Patrick Patterson would actually be a decent fit.

    But how about this guy? I know there is not much "power" in this forward, but he is one of the best 3-point shooters in the game...

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  20. daywalker02

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    I am not sure about giving up 2 guys for Novak who is very one dimensional.

    At least get a D and 3 guy.
     

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