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Jeremy Lin says he's OK with being Rockets' 6th Man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Play07, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. hltiki

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    oh boi...
     
  2. Fighton

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    no, not at all, no worries. i know exactly where you're coming from and what your intentions were. and i think you'll agree with me when i say that we ALL have on a set of lenses that were created based on our experiences and at times, it blinds us to see what's really there, and it takes time to change that. as long as we're open to these changes, it's all good.

    by the way, for what it's worth, i'm actually taking my kids trick or treating tomorrow night in the crenshaw district of LA, since we've befriended a family that lives there. maybe the experience will open my eyes a bit.
     
  3. hltiki

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    I live in LA as well, and here is what I say to you:

    If you love your kids, THEN DON'T TAKE THEM THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :)
     
  4. joe101

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    That's you are going to far! ;)
     
  5. Doppleganger

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    It's not negative. In fact, it's entirely consistent with all the devotional tributes to God he's said before.
     
  6. chenjy9

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    Not at all. Ginobli was widely considered as good as Kobe was at one point in time. He was equally good at driving, shooting, and dribbling from both sides, a great penetrating guard, good shooter, and competent passer. I think people forget just how good Ginobli actually was.
     
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    There is no 4th scoring option player can win the best 6th man.

    JR is 2nd option in NY.
    Manu is 2or3.
     
  8. KlutchQT

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    I honestly think Jeremy could become the 3rd scoring option if he has the freedom to create and play more on-ball. Pause.
     
  9. durvasa

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    Shouldn't we also consider the possibility that McHale was not dead set on either player being the starter? He may have had reasons in his mind why Beverley would make sense as a starter, even going back to last year, but that doesn't mean he was committed to the idea that Beverley would be the starter. He could also have understood the arguments for why Lin staying as a starter could make sense (as many people on this board have expressed).

    Why should we assume that McHale is religiously behind the idea that one players needs to start and the other needs to come off the bench? I don't think his perspective is as stark and one-sided as the views of a lot of people here. That's why he said both players are starter-quality PGs (speaking of which, I can't understand why so many think that is so preposterous and "insulting"). Maybe he was leaning towards Beverley, and seeing the way he meshed with the other starters in training camp and in preseason, he decided to go in that direction. People can disagree with the choice as a basketball decision, but I really don't see why it should have become as big a deal as it has.
     
  10. AggNRox

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    it is not big deal to me. I just don't understand why so many ppl here and national media are thinking Beverley outplayed lin so lin lost his starting pg. from my view, I believe McHale leaned to give starting pg to Beverley from the beginning. the good thing is Beverley didn't do bad thing to lose his job.

    i am pretty sure lin is not happy with that. from his wed interview, he said clearly this is the coach decision. he had no control. this is the typical and standard answer from a player when he disagrees with his coach. lin's unhappiness is understandable. he was a starter and he didn't do anything to lose his job.

    the ppl are using fit to explain the change. it means nothing. do you expect lin would play only with 1st unit if he started? just look at last season. lin played a lot with 2nd unit although he was a starter. think about, if among three of them, lin, harden, and Beverley, only lin will play with 2nd unit, i would see the significant difference. since all three have chance to play with 2nd unit, i don't see much difference. then making change is kinda meaningless.
     
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  13. AggNRox

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    agree. it is lin. if we had lowry in lin's shoe, we would see drama for sure.
     
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    I don't think Lin got "outplayed", at least not by a significant margin. Lin was sick towards the end of the preseason, I think, so it wouldn't be necessarily a fair comparison either. Lin did some things better than Beverley, and vice-versa.

    Beverley was a more energetic defender and his turnover ratio was low, which are evidently key things for McHale, but I think most who watched the games would say that both of them played really well. The "Beverley outplayed Lin" stuff, IMO, is more a case of exaggeration in an attempt to quiet down the outrage towards McHale for daring to change his starting lineup.

    Of course Lin isn't happy about not starting, but that doesn't necessarily mean he disagrees with it as a basketball decision. He actually went out of his way to talk about how him coming off the bench and Beverley starting makes sense, which would suggest that he isn't quite as distraught about it as you think.
     
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    of course Beverley has a lower turnover ratio, he's not the ball handler when he's on the court.
     
  16. AggNRox

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    energetic defender - i totally agree

    turnover ratio was low - means nothing. if his main job is to defend and spot up shooter, i won't be surprised to see his to ratio is low. lin's to ratio dropped a lot compared to his time with ny. why? because harden stole part of lin's TOs.
     
  17. hltiki

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    Blasphemy!
     
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    Enough of the McHale crap.

    He is not a racist or a liar.

    He was probably leaning towards Bev to start but the decision was not predetermined. That doesn't make him disingenuous. That makes him flexible.
     
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    Fact: McHale is not a racist

    Questionable: McHale is not a liar

    Fact: McHale never has and probably never will like Lin's style of play.
     
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    I heard he doesn't like people from Turkey too, that's why Asik is not our starting center anymore.
    :rolleyes:
     

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