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Jeremy Lin says he's OK with being Rockets' 6th Man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Play07, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. joe101

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    Lin had been with the white team while starters and Bev were in black during the last few preseason practices. It was obvious to me.
     
  2. TheBornLoser

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    Hey, there are people comparing Lin to Manu on this board.

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    I know right????

    I wonder who they compare Beverley with.... maybe Gary Payton?
     
  3. flamingdts

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    Why would McHale alternate between starting PGs if he was already dead set on starting Beverley?

    That make no sense and I highly doubt McHale is a "troll" that a lot of Lin fans accuse him of.

    It's more likely that McHale wanted to see who was the best fit by using the pre-season as a test, and decided that Lin could be better utilized with the 2nd unit after the pre-season games.
     
  4. langal

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    Don't you know that you are not allowed to mention two players in the same paragraph unless they are exactly equal in skill?
     
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    :grin:
    Most funny post today
     
  6. TheBornLoser

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    My absolute apologies sir! I will never make the cardinal mistake of mentioning backup point guard, Jeremy Lin, with contender team starting point guard, Patrick Beverley, in the same paragraph, line or even breath, ever again!!!

    As penance, I will hereby drop down and do 30 push-ups!!!
     
  7. l4z4rd

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    They were doing their Asian tour. Not even McHale has the balls to completely bench Lin.
     
  8. joe101

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    Bev can't carry Payton's jaw. ;)
     
  9. flamingdts

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    Then explain why Jeremy Lin started against the Hornets.
     
  10. KlutchQT

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    I haven't seen anyone suggest that Jeremy's skill set is on par with Ginobli's. Feel free to point me to a post where someone did, though. What people have suggested is that he could become a Ginobli type player -- someone who is a true 6th man, playing heavy and impactful minutes off the bench.

    That is not even remotely the same thing as comparing bringing Jeremy off the bench to bringing CP3/KG/Paul Pierce/Deron Wililams off the bench. Those guys are perennial all-stars who carried teams on their backs, and suggesting that asking Jeremy -- or frankly anyone on this team other than Harden and Howard -- to come off the bench is the same as asking one of them... it's ludicrous. Period.

    And for langal, it's virtually impossible to identify two players who are "exactly equal" in skill. But there is a clear hierarchy, and to suggest that either Lin or Beverley are ANYWHERE NEAR the level of Chris Paul is totally absurd.
     
  11. chenjy9

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    Idiot... That is not a comparison of skill, but a reminder that people far more skilled than Lin has ever been have participated in the 6th man role. :rolleyes: Lin is by far inferior to 6th man Manu.
     
  12. joe101

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    He did, in the Philippines. But if your completely bench means not playing at all, then no he didn't. Nobody in their right mind would.
     
  13. joe101

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    Lin has never played a regular season minute as a 6th man so your "by far inferior" is just your premature opinion, not fact. But if you say Manu WAS by far a better player compare to the Lin at this stage, I agree.
     
  14. Fighton

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    good post, and you're right.

    but let me first say that i'm NOT accusing mchale OR the organization or anyone that is critical of lin of being racists against asians. NOT AT ALL. and no, just because you're not a fan of lin or critical of him doesn't mean you're a racist. that's just ridiculous. it's a looongggg way to go from having preconceived notions of things to being a racist. let's not throw that word around to liberally. just want to make that clear.

    my parents will never let me date a black woman no matter what; they're racists. i will not buy a house in a predominately black neighborhood here in LA because statistically, the crime rate is higher and schools aren't as good. that's not being a racist - that's just making decisions based on reality. having been through the LA riots in south central after rodney king, yeah you can say my view of southern central LA is a bit tainted.

    I was simply responding to another post that states how there are people who never give any credit to lin when he does well despite the obvious. i think that has to do with preconceived notions and social construct, and that will take time to break down. doesn't mean they're racist. it just takes time to change how you've always viewed things.

    we all have preconceived notions of how things work - we are after all products of our social construct and experiences. believe it or not, but i'm sure you have some yourself. it's what helps us make sense of what's around us. and the reality is, race (or simply outward appearance) has a LOT to do with it, because that's what we see first and foremost. it's unrealistic to expect someone like lin to NOT raise any race flags. it's when you take it to a "hate" level and wishing ill on someone because of race or class, that's when you become a racist.
     
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    I agree. it doesn't prove anything. but it definitely didn't happen yesterday or day before yesterday...

    let's do a little bit reasonable guess. with limited scrimmage videos before the preseason start, we see more bev playing with harden/howard than lin doing. then we see suddenly alternative starting in preseason games. except 1st game, all other games our bench didn't surrender to other teams no matter who started. what can those preseason games (very limited) tell? probably not much. now we know the decision. based on what we see from those preseason games and what data come out from those games, it's really no clear cut to say bev has to play with 1st unit and lin has to play with 2nd unit. lin was a starter. he didn't do anything to lose his starting job.

    if you or a quite bit ppl think the decision is made per who fits better with harden/howard, I would not be surprised to see the decision was made long time ago. from the last year, we, as fans, have already known bev style and lin style. it doesn't need experiment to figure out if you think fit is the key. it doesn't make any sense to say McHale didn't know the answer until very last sec unless he were a new coach and haven't seen either of them playing much.
     
  16. chenjy9

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    Your second interpretation is the correct one. I am saying the Manu who played 6th man was by far a superior player to our current Lin. Manu was comparable to Kobe.
     
  17. KlutchQT

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    @Fighton, fair enough. Despite the other poster jumping down my throat on your behalf, I hope you know I didn't intend my post as some personal criticism. It honestly helped me to see where you might be coming from, which is always a good thing in my book. :)
     
  18. Fighton

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    oh as for starting yao? dude if you're over 7ft tall and has an once of athletic gene in you, someone will give you a chance whether you're russian, asian, or martian. i mean, look at george muresan, i don't even believe his human!
     
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    "Sometimes trials are God's way of taking our hands off of things that aren't secure and putting them on the only thing that is -- Himself."

    Jeremy Lin from facebook.
    Seems to me he views this negatively.
     
  20. l4z4rd

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    who wouldn't. He lost his starting job.
     

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