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Jeremy Lin says he's OK with being Rockets' 6th Man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Play07, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. hikanoo49

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    We lose a lot of games and are an 8th seed

    Harden continues to play ISO's ball and no defense

    Howard is pissed as he doesn't get the ball as Beverly is not a great playmaker

    Team sags and zones up in the paint as we don't play team ball and no ball movement

    What would Mchale and LOH be saying? How Lin has no left hand and its all Lins fault
     
  2. jordnnnn

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    This.

    Rockets could win it all, but unless Lin is starting and controlling the ball most of the time there would still be McFail, Harden iso, trade him to a team who will use him right and all that other Lin fan BS posts.
     
  3. Roxnostalgia

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    I suppose you mean this as some sort of put down but I am not a business person at all.

    I missed the part where the Rockets blamed the hoards of Linfans (for what?)and prompted the great Rockets boycott of '13/14.
     
  4. thesonofsam

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    You have a problem. Who says they play that lineup all year? How about you see a game or two and how they use Lin instead of instantly dismissing the move as racist and/or mchale hatred towards him?
     
  5. topfive

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    If McHale's lineup proves to not give us our best shot at winning, I trust him to change it. Over and over, he's talked about how the starting lineup could very likely change as the season progresses.

    I seriously doubt McHale's supposed hatred of Lin is greater than his desire to win games. "I don't care if we've lost 12 in a row and Beverley is sucking, there's no way I'll ever start Jeremy Lin again!" That's just ludicrous.
     
  6. KlutchQT

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    I don't disagree with you. I personally don't think the organization owes fans anything. The Rockets have made a lot of moves I didn't personally like, but I never expect an explanation or justification. That said, I think it would go a long way for McHale to make a statement saying what those of us with common sense already know -- that making this switch will allow for a defensively suffocating starting lineup and the opportunity for Jeremy to remain ball-dominant and do what he does best by creating offensively. He isn't obligated to do it, but it might engender some good will with certain Jeremy fans. I'm hoping he will.

    And I'm not solely blaming Jeremy's fans. The people who keep saying he's benched because Beverley flat out "outplayed" him in the preseason are equally culpable for creating the divisiveness, IMO. Then again, I am one of those people who truly does believe this decision was about fit and allowing both guys to play to their strengths -- not about who the organization has deemed the superior PG for whatever reason.

    We're lucky to have a roster full of guys who give 100% and seem to really want to bring a championship to Houston. I just wish they could go into Toyota Center tonight feeling collectively supported by their fanbase.
     
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    Please answer this. If the lineup isn't working, do you genuinely think McHale would sacrifice his own job just to spite Jeremy? I'm not trying to be snarky -- I'm honestly curious.
     
  8. Fighton

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    people just can't believe what they're seeing with their own eyes. it takes a lot to break preconceived notions and stereotypes. everyone has them; it's what helps us navigate the world and make decisions.

    some people won't let a black guy do their taxes or perform heart surgery, and some won't let an asian play pg for their teams. it sucks but that's just the reality of the world that we live in today. i won't live in a predominately black neighborhood because i know the schools probably aren't very good and crime rate is probably high. i don't need extensive data to tell me that. i could be very wrong, but the odds are on my side.

    heck, when my buddies told me about lin at harvard, i had a hard time believing it, even after watching highlights on youtube. i was even surprised that he was picked up by GSW, and somewhat felt validated when he ended up in D-league. when i heard about the breakthrough nets game, i was skeptical, and even more so after watching the highlights.

    then the next game, thought... hmm... really?
    then another game... ok how long is this gonna last?
    then the 38pt laker game,
    then the 24 and 12 mavs game, and on and on...
    and after a whole season of starting on this squad, i'm sold on him as a solid starting pg in the league.

    it took a lot for me to be convinced, and i'm asian! been following the league since early 80's and i've never seen anything like it. and being in the same high school league as schools in compton and inglewood (yes, where paul pierce and tyson chandler came from) in the early 90's further convinced me that there is no freakin' way this would ever happen. asians are doctors and engineers who can excel in rec leagues but a starting pg in the nba? hell no. he's only been on the scene for 1 1/2 years; it's going to take a long, long time for people to be convinced.
     
  9. Play07

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    nice post could have been a thread
     
  10. webattorney

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    I found it interesting that Lin is basically saying during Wed post practice interview:
    "Even last year, I wasn't really a starter because I was getting jacked around in many games, and I wasn't really being treated as a starter. So I really don't care whether I start or come off the bench. But this year, I am going to play my brand of BB. That's it."

    Hopefully, Lin will be given 30 minutes and be really treated as a 6th man, rather than just another bench player. It would be prudent for Rockets to give him a chance to shine, so his trade value will go up.
     
  11. KlutchQT

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    How do those of you who continue to blame this on race explain the organization's willingness to start Yao?

    And Fighton, your post explains a lot. I promise I'm not trying to be contentious -- but given that (1) you're an Asian person who was skeptical that another Asian could be successful in the NBA, and (2) you'd be unwilling to live around black people because you assume they are criminals... it doesn't surprise me that you'd assume that any criticism of Jeremy is based on race. I think there has to be some level of projection there, given that you seem to have difficulty overcoming your own preconceived notions and prejudices.
     
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    Excellent points, all we care about is winning. I don't care if the 2nd unit outscores the 1st. Did we or did we not get a W?? Too many individual concerns about Jlin. Let's just go play some ball!
     
  13. hikanoo49

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    I am not suggesting in any way Mchale has a vandetta against Lin or anything relating to that. But I do have concerns with Mchale's ability to make these types of decisions, his coaching ability as well as his general ability to run a team

    Yes, I am no basketball genius and just a fan but then again that is what this board is for, for fans to speak our minds and discuss with other fans

    Mchale has not had a successful track record of winning. He has had a history of player personel issues (Lowry). To me, the ultimate decision may be right or wrong but I feel it was done too hastily and as mentioned in other posts there are no signs whatsoever that Lin cant flourish with Howard or Harden from pre-season. It is very uncommon to just swap starting PGs (they are the floor general and both guys are young) back and forth so a major decision like this imo should have been tested a bit.

    Again, if we played 15 games adn were losing or Lin was performing poorly with the starters, then I have no problem with this. But to do this after a pretty successful pre-season is highly questionable as to the benefits to the team which makes me question his decision making ability and his overall judgement
     
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    Jeremy Lin responds to his role off the bench


     
  15. topfive

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    Except for that time when he took the youngest team in the league and turned them into an offensive juggernaut that came pretty close to toppling the #1 seed OKC Thunder in the playoffs?

    Because if you're counting all his other seasons against him, you've got to put last year in the plus column.
     
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    The economy goes into collapse

    People start selling their own children for bread

    Rockets begin rationing food out to the players but Dwight eats it all

    Harden hides his bread in his beard out of fear

    Dwight sees a crumb fall out of Harden's beard and figures it out

    Harden wakes up with a fresh shave and no bread

    After losing the beard he is no longer capable of playing basketball

    We are back to being a perpetual 9th seed

    All because McHale didn't wanna start Lin.
     
  17. TheBornLoser

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    Tsk tsk. So the plan has been to bring him off the bench for quite awhile already, LOL! :grin:
     
  18. l4z4rd

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    let's be honest, the Rockets were toast and on the verge of being swept until Westbrook went down.
     
  19. trock

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    I think you hit the nail on the head. Though, I think it's impossible to deny racial undertones in Lin's story, it's made people project a lot of things onto him that may or may not be there.
     
  20. topfive

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    That's what I'm saying! McHale's "Sweep the leg, Patrick" game plan was perfect! :grin:

    Seriously, though. That team was too young and inexperienced to do much of anything. A bad coach wouldn't have been able to steer them into the playoffs.
     

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