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Shocking Development re: CSN Houston...

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Mattj, Sep 27, 2013.

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  1. justtxyank

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    There are approximately 2.3 million tv households in Houston.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    Yes they do. The 40/60 split is on TV HOUSEHOLDS not total households in the city. 40% of all tv households belong to comcast, the other 60% belong to dish/dtv/uverse/etc.
     
  3. Granville

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    Seriously.....can someone explain how Crane shouldn't have known about the favored nation clause that a huge provider had with his partner? Crane had to look like a complete idiot blurting that out in court.
     
  4. Granville

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    That's my understanding too.
     
  5. otis thorpe

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    okay...
     
  6. justtxyank

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    Correction: the 40/60 split you hear about is cable subscribers.

    So it does not account for households that don't subscribe to some sort of cable service.

    So yes, 60% of all people who subscribe to some sort of cable package in the Houston market do NOT get CSNH.
     
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    Not sure what the argument is here. Sure there are households in Houston that don't have any sort of cable/satellite, but I can't imagine it's substantial. Plus there's more people outside of Houston that aren't getting CSNH, the Golden Triangle (which I'm a part of) is a big area.
     
  8. otis thorpe

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    you were arguing with yourself:)
     
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    Definitely seems like an oversight on his part, he had to have known that
     
  10. justtxyank

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    I was clarifying my point. Nick's interpretation of the numbers are wrong.
     
  11. otis thorpe

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    Relax francis

    i'm saying your clarification now lines up with what you corrected me on.
     
  12. Willis25

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    I disagree - I think the reason the Rockets are are on the CSN side is that there is a deal worked out with the other providers that the Astro's are holding up. The Rockets want CSN to stay (truth be told - from what I have heard, it is better than FSSW) they just want the Astro's VETO of the DirecTV deal to go away
     
  13. justtxyank

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    No, you are saying some of the 60% that don't have Comcast aren't in the market for any cable service. That is not true.

    The 40% that have Comcast are of cable subscribers, not all Houstonians. The 60% that do not, are again, cable subscribers.

    So it is in fact 60% of people who have cable in this city can't watch the Rockets, so 60% of the potential viewing audience can't watch.
     
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    the station is in place, raring up ready to go, its an operating entity ten years in the making. its easier on the rockets if it is forced to stay together and carriage fees have to be signed.
     
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    I AGREE, stop arguing. i'm not disagreeing with what you corrected me on.
     
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    Not to mention they will likely make more money and it is good for the brand because they can control content. FSSW did nothing to promote the Rockets brand.
     
  17. otis thorpe

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    you're right, they were a dallas station. one thing i hadn't said about my personal situation, in 2011 i couldn't get the rockets from the cable broadcaster i had. i lived in one of those areas that comcast didn't have. i lived in apts and didn't want to pay the $200 deposit which i would never get back, to put a dish on my bldg.

    it wasn't tvmaxx, but it was owned by tvmaxx
     
  18. Major

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    That's called PR spin. Anytime you can say "it's about the jobs!", that's free positive press. At the end of the day, if it was in their best interests for CSN-H to fold, they wouldn't care one bit about the jobs there. A huge chunk of those people - like the TV people, the sound people, the people in the truck at the game, etc - all just replaced people who were doing the same job for FSSW anyway. They aren't all net gain jobs.
     
  19. Major

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    To be fair, FSSW split off into FSN Houston for a while there, and was based in Houston the last few years:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Sports_Houston

    Fox Sports Houston was a regional sports network that covered sports in Houston, Texas. The network operated out of Downtown Houston.

    Fox Sports Houston was the home for the Houston Astros (MLB), Houston Rockets (NBA), Houston Dynamo (MLS) plus Houston Cougars (NCAA) and Rice Owls (NCAA) coverage of the Conference USA athletic conference. It also featured local Houston-area high school sports.

    Beginning as a subfeed of sister network Fox Sports Southwest in 2005, the network became its own 24-hour channel on January 12, 2009. [1] On October 5, 2012, the network was reabsorbed into Fox Sports Southwest, after it lost the broadcast rights of the Houston Astros and Houston Rockets to Comcast SportsNet Houston.
     
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    Oh, don't tease me.

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