1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Shocking Development re: CSN Houston...

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Mattj, Sep 27, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    You specifically he should stop talking. You said he should just shutup and people would stop hating him. Now you admit that he wasn't complaining to fans. It wasn't semantics - you just made it up completely. This is why I have a problem with your posts and ask you to specify what you're talking about.
     
  2. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    The Astros haven't complained about the $40MM they haven't received. They didn't file the bankruptcy or make any kind of demand for the payment.
     
  3. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    They have brought it up that's for sure. The reason it's not as big a deal to them is that crane has dropped the payroll so low he can ride this out on the 40% and still make money. Meanwhile the team stinks so bad flies have to wear clothespins on their noses to land on MMP.
     
  4. otis thorpe

    otis thorpe Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    13
    you're right. you win. I really tried to distort the facts to make my argument.
     
  5. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,744
    Likes Received:
    132,119
    The team was terrible when he bought it. The farm system was the worst in baseball and by next year will be the best or at a minimum in the top 3-4 in baseball. They almost landed Jose Abreu as well.

    It is stupid to spend money when you have no chance to compete. I have no good an owner he will be. Hell when John McMullen bought the Astros the perception was he was a great owner, only later was he a cheap b*stard.

    You don't have to like the Astros or their owner, but your comments border on the absurd. I don't know if Crane dropped his meat hammer on your wife or worse, but your level of hatred is not healthy.
     
    1 person likes this.
  6. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    It was brought up in the initial filings by the Comcast Creditors. They brought it up to say the payments hadn't been made and that the Astros were 3 days away from walking the deal, in accordance with their rights under the broadcast agreement. They brought that up because they're saying they need the automatic stay provisions of bankruptcy to keep CSN's biggest asset from walking out the door.
     
  7. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    And why were the Astros 3 days from walking?
     
  8. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    I think his point is they're not making a claim for their money in this bankruptcy...they'd rather walk.
     
  9. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    I think it's more unhealthy and absurd for you to make a derogatory comment about my wife for no good reason. Had I done the same to you and you retaliated I'd have no issue.
     
  10. Refman

    Refman Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2002
    Messages:
    13,674
    Likes Received:
    312
    OMG...you mean they were going to exercise their rights under the contract that everybody agreed to? Oh the humanity.

    Frankly, if I saw that the revenues from the proposed carriage agreements were not going to support what I was promised under the deal and I had not been paid in three months...I'd walk too. That's called knowing when to cut your losses.
     
  11. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    Because they want their money or leave if they don't get it. Game set match on that point.
     
  12. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    You said they made no demand. You were wrong cut the drama. Pay me or I'm walking is a demand
     
  13. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    Of course. Like virtually every other party to a contract ever.
     
  14. otis thorpe

    otis thorpe Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    13
    from first link in first post



    THE ASTROS HAVE MENTIONED THEIR PAYMENTS NOT BEING MADE
     
  15. Granville

    Granville Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,555
    Likes Received:
    926
    Max. I don't disagree. But it is what I said it was, Crane wants his 80 mil even though he is cockblocking 60% of the revenue.
     
  16. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    You claimed they demanded their money - they did not. They've never asked to be paid that money, as far as we know. Instead, they were content to just exercise the mutually agreed clause that allowed them to walk, presumably because they realized this thing is a disaster and were content to eat the losses and start over. Comcast is the one that didn't want that.
     
  17. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    Mentioning facts in a bankruptcy filing is different than asking for that money to be paid. They are the facts of the case and have to be mentioned. Notice that in the part you quoted, they never ask or demand payment. You writing in big bold font doesn't change that.
     
  18. otis thorpe

    otis thorpe Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    13
    they said they have to make up for it. that's not from the hearing, that's a statement.
     
  19. otis thorpe

    otis thorpe Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2013
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    13
    take a breath, stop trying to prove me wrong, open the link, and read.

    that is a statement in response to the motion being filed. its the first link in the first post. its not any thing that had to be said legally.
     
  20. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,744
    Likes Received:
    132,119
    I have never met your wife, it is very unlikely that I ever will ... It was a figure of speech.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page