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Could Motiejunas and Jones both move out of the rotation?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CXbby, Oct 17, 2013.

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Who's in?

Poll closed Nov 16, 2013.
  1. Neither Dmo/Jones - We are contenders - No Babies Allowed

    22.2%
  2. 1 out of Dmo or Jones - Still room to grow

    58.9%
  3. Both Dmo and Jones - I just want to watch the world burn

    18.9%
  1. basketballholic

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    CXbby has plenty of respect. All he did is point out a sampling of your player valutions. If you are happy with it then you shouldn't feel disrespected.
     
  2. tadahito

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    They need to play DMo and TJones if they want to get anything of value for them at the trade deadline.

    DMo is fun to watch so I hope they don't trade him.
     
  3. Zoplicone

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    At this point you have to wonder whether tjones will be let go in the summer. Houston will be in the luxury tax and have a team option on him.
     
  4. tadahito

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    TJones is not Royce White and his option will be picked up at the deadline next week.
    Even Austin Rivers(a.k.a. the worst player statistically) will probably have his 3rd year option picked up next week.
    But I agree he(or Dmo) will not be here next year. One of them will be traded.
     
  5. Zoplicone

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    I'm not so sure. You could be right but I wouldn't be shocked if they didnt Not too many people will wanna trade for a guy that hasn't logged more than 40 games in 2 seasons; or a guy that couldn't beat out casspi and dmo in the rotation.
     
  6. kuku

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    Some put DMo down for his shooting, but they're neglecting the fact that his priority this summer was to gain upper body strength and he accomplished that as asked.

    Do they actually realize what that extra 20-30 pounds will do to his shooting?? By reading this thread, of course they didn't know that he has to readjust his shooting touch.

    Win now or not, Rockets will STILL develop their young players. That what Vipers are for anyway. At least they have the patient and better at assessing players than all of the posters here.

    There is a gracefulness in the way he scores. I believe DMo is a late bloomer and I also envision DMo as part of Rockets long term future, simply because 7-footers with skills do not grow in trees.
     
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    The problem with what you are saying is those words, "his priority". "His priority" is not aligned with the Rockets priorities for him improving his game. The Rockets wanted him to improve his rebounding and defense.....and put on some weight to help him do that. He put on the weight...but he didn't allow himself to be coached up defensively. He's the same guy as last year just 40 lbs. heavier. Same crappy jumper, same free wheeling throw it up style, same zero defensively, same guy that lets guards rebound and box him out, same guy that wants to force things and wants to always make the difficult play offensively instead of working within the confines of the team scheme.

    DMo unfortunately has his own set of priorities.
     
  8. kuku

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    You are just debating with yourself. Rockets priority was for him to improve his rebound and defense but by doing that, he HAS to gain the upper body strength FIRST. By following your logic, the priority was for him to gain weight or he wouldn't be able to improve his defense and rebound.

    How did he not allow to be coached up defensively?? Without link you are just spewing garbage again.
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    He already had D-Mo beat in the rotation. He is injured. That's the only reason he isn't playing. He started two games in a row before he got hurt.
    Trust me. he's not going anywhere. If he wasn't injured, he would be starting.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Maybe not 7 footers but they grow a lot of 6'10, 6'11 guys with skills in Europe.
    Close enough.
     
  11. basketballholic

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    Link? The link is my two eyes. You dont have to put on weight to improve defensively or on the glass. Being a good defender and rebounder is a mentality. DMo did the easy part. He ate some pizzas and drank some beer. But he didn't dedicate himself to playing solid D and rebounding. DMo's mentality is to use the weight to give himself more power with his offensive pivot moves and hopefully that extra weight will help him create space and hold his ground better on the defensive end. But he doesn't really care enough about defense to work on his craft.

    I dont need a link to some article written by some dude that doesn't even know half of what I know about this game. I know what I see. DMo has been fortunate up until now that we were rebuilding and that he got an opportunity to play last year. If this were the Van Gundy Rockets DMo would have never seen the court and JVG would be begging Morey to get rid of him and bring in someone useful.

    DMo is another Al Jefferson.
     
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    I guess you mean on Defense.

    Al Jefferson is a legit scorer and has always been one of the better starters, even borderline allstar like at times on Offense.

    Dmo is not there. He can score against second units, but has problems against starters.

    I like his game on O, but can help but notice he is not ready yet.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Looks like Dmo is number 9 and Jones is lower at the moment.

    DD
     
  14. gravityonme

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    At this point I'll be fine if either work out but ONE OF THEM SHOULD! It's been such a joke over the last few years with all these PFs we've drafted and we've not been able to really cash in on even one of them.

    Yeah I know we've flipped a few for assets and cash and all that but not even 1???
     
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    He's going to develop like Jefferson has. I have no doubts that DMo will become a somewhat proficient low block scorer like Jefferson is. I don't know if he will be as good as Jefferson on the glass however and I dont know if he'll be as good as Jefferson defensively. ;) But DMo will get to the free throw line about as often as Jefferson does with equivalent touches. ;);)

    Can a team win that way? Yes, but it is extremely difficult and very rare. Big Al hasn't managed to win up to this point and he's not likely to this season either. However...he is making a very handsome living.
     
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    If D-Mo is Al Jefferson (at any point of his career) as the 9th man in the rotation, and he's making less than 2 mil a year for 3 more years then Morey has hit the jackpot once again. Why in the world would you want to get rid of a player like that when you know he's only going to net you at best a late 1st rounder? A trade asset??.... come on. Morey can offer up to 5 1st round picks in any trade if he so desired.... they dont need late 1st rounders and especially not 2nd rounders.... they need young talented players more.

    I just dont understand the hate for this guy. Its as if he's looked bad or something in preseason. Other than his 3 point shooting, and the occasional bonehead play (which all 2nd year players make), what is so wrong with this guy staying on the team to continue his development???

    I have yet to see any logic to getting rid of D-Mo now other than the fact that some posters here are trying to force feed their garbage down everyones throat as if its fact. Having this kind of talented big man as insurance and a future backup when/if Asik is moved is a nice luxury.
     
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    I hope that both of these guys are Rockets for years to come. They haven't even started their second season and some of you have already hung them out to dry.:rolleyes:
     
  18. kuku

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    More garbage....

    Congrats! After 15 months of joining CF, I finally found the perfect candidate for my ignore list.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Again I can understand the urge that people have towards Winning Now.

    They want someone SOLID on both O and D, someone more proven with a back to the basket game and a face up game.

    Someone who won't get embarassed by guarding Dirk, guarding ZBO, Gasol, Duncan, Griffin, the better PFs of the West.

    Again the Management has to make a statement if they want to develop those guys or not. It's a matter of time.

    PT will be limited and both guys might see more minutes with a borderline playoff team or a bottom team as Orlando, Sacramento, Phoenix......
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Someone that can block and rebound 7, 8 boards a game even with Howard under the basket
     

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