If you want to talk about the residual effects of slavery at least include some sort of causal connection to specific issues. What particular issues do you have a problem with? It doesn't help to get upset with slavery if you have nothing positive to offer to remove these ill effects. If it is welfare inequality, education, prison...? I don't think it would be fair to attribute all of society's problems to slavery but am willing to discuss the possibility. You obviously haven't seen other Tarantino movies (Inglorious Basterds)... What are your problems with Django? That Spike Lee doesn't like it?
Actually, the black marriage rate was about the same as the average US rate (and the white rate) for most of US history. It only really started diverging in the 1940s to 50s.
No, it's a large scale social phenomenon; I don't think you can look at any one factor and say it has caused the destruction of the black family unit. I was simply pointing out that this specific issue probably has little to do with slavery.
Severing of cultural ties and all that entails ( severing occurred in various degrees) Who ever said all of society's problems are the result of slavery.
Bill Burr has a great stand up routine about watching Roots for a week and being expected to feel guilt.
To say that slavery has no bearing on our modern day lives upsets me, and if it matters, I'm white. Just wanted to throw some love to the responses in this thread, and the OP, which is perfectly reasonable. I've had heated conversations with my own family on the subject of racism and equal opportunity today. It's a topic where we've settled back into a status quo, which is a huge opponent to progression on this topic. Throw in the fact that people "learn" through TV and movies.... and you have a whole world view built on misinformation. Slavery changed the course of history irreversibly, and legislation by itself will never fix that. It a choice to harbor anger and resentment in your heart for things that happened decades ago that you and the black and white people around you weren't responsible for. The Travyon Martin case, for example, was disturbing and disappointing from BOTH sides who reacted so strongly and projected their views on the entire country. It's like we were all dragged back 30 years as we all vented our frustrations and assumptions. Stoking that kind of suppressed anger will just never lead to anything good.. There's still hope and we still live in a country with the resources to promote harmony and awareness, despite the incredible ignorance around and trivialization of this subject. It just takes an incredible amount of patience, which is a virtue you just don't find in society...
The reality is black people need to give up the slavery card. Every culture throughout history has had slaves and in general turned people of their own race into slave. Ancient Egyptians, Ancient Greeks, Indian people in New Delhi not American Indian. I could go on for days. We get it slavery is what is still holding the black race back 150 years later, it has nothing to do with the lackluster effort put forth by the majority of young african americans. The same young african americans who spend their free time watching videos of people getting dunked on via youtube instead of learning useful skills, who wear jeans hanging off their butt, the same ones who come from broken homes and repeat the cycle, and the same ones who are incarcerated at an alarmingly high rate. Oddly enough even though every culture dealt with slavery, hell some of my indian ancestors were probably slaves, other cultures managed to get out of that mindset and move on with life and begin to better the world... wake me up when society begins to respect african americans as equal beings who speak proper english,dress well,succeed, and don't strike fear in the average person they interact with. I was just at dinner and some black guy came up in his bentley with rims with loud music bumping at uptown sushi....WTF is that, its a nice restaurant not a park, he was all tatted up in a white tee......who could take him seriously. He wasn't an athlete and more than likely illegally made money. Why does nobody look at me in a nice car and get that perception? African americans have a lot of work to do to get respect from the average non african american, but it begins at home and how they raise their kids. Teach them english, teach them respect,teach them how to dress, and educate them and maybe in 50 years we can have this talk again
Well personally I'm looking forward to the movie. Also, being on the SAG awards nominating committee I will be looking very critically at the performances.
The answer is obvious -- blacks benefit greatly from reminding everybody what happened to their extremely distant ancestors many many generations ago. Nevermind that there are no slave masters or slaves alive today. By reminding everybody about slavery in the US, they are able to shame others into continuing racist policies such as affirmative action (freebies for them). Perhaps even more importantly, they are able to put up this shield that makes it damn near impossible to criticize blacks -- remember when folks were critical of Obama early on? They were labeled racists. So why wouldn't blacks continue to remind everyone else about slavery in the US? They stand to gain from it today, even though they were never slaves themselves. Pure self-motivated, selfish behavior.
I think their master plan is failing, based on the poverty rates, crime rates, fatherless home rates and college graduation rates. No money, no education and broken homes sound like failing to me. Maybe at the next Black Caucus they can put pen to pad and come up with another master plan.
I didn't say it was their master plan. They have no master plan. This is a tactical plan to help on the margin. Hell there's even a whole cottage industry that has sprouted up to perpetuate this. Al Sharpton, Reverend Jackson and Quannell X thank everybody for their attention...
They would be thanking you as well right? I had never heard of Quannell X until you mentioned him on here.
Those that would deny the bull**** that has been intentionally done to black people in the U.S. since slavery. Those who would dismiss Jim Crow Those who would ignore cointel pro Those who would deny the gov intentionally poor drugs into those communities Those who would deny institutional racism Those who would deny the unbalanced unfair sentencing in the criminal system that happens every day Those that would deny the unfair educational system You know .. . those that think after slavery everyone was immediately equal and treated the same you know.. the ignorant and willfully ignorant people. Rocket River
