Jeremy Lin and Beverley, who fits better with the team and James Harden

I agree with your other two points, but this one makes no sense to me. Why are you multiplying PPP by possessions per minute? Adjusting for pace is meant to try to eliminate pace from the equation. You're playing it up by doing this and showing favor to faster teams/players.

 

not sure why you keep talking about winning but refuse to talk about defense and having a balanced attack

what wins games and championships? having as much FG% or having as much point differential?

 

The nature of your whole OP is manipulative. You reached the conclusion that Bev is a worse fit among the starters by looking at a specific data set and on top of that only looking at offense. That is, by definition, manipulative and misleading.

As far as the data goes, you said you wanted to start at Harden's injury date, right? So why did you start at February first? When you're aiming to look at the period after Harden was injured, doesn't it make sense to look at the period after Harden was injured? Meaning the date I used, not the completely arbitrary guess you used of February 1st.

Also, you ignoring defense DOES impact what you're discussing. You've implicitly yet clearly saying that Beverley should ride the pine because of your findings here. As a matter of fact, you end your post with "so, why are we talking about benching Lin and start Beverley here? Should we try to improve Lin's efficiency at cost of James and the teams' efficiency?"

That's a completely misleading conclusion to reach when you presented limited data that takes a bias view of your favorite player.

 

To be fair, it is not like the world is overflowing with accurate defensive stats to choose from.

If Bev and Lin are both playing significant minutes (as it appears they will be from McHales remarks thus far) then we will be getting real data during the early part of the season, against the same teams and maybe even the same lineups. That should go a long way to figuring out the answer of best fit.

 

when you titled this who fits better with the team and James Harden,

was your goal to point out who will help the team and harden the most games?

or who will help the team and harden increase their FG%?

 

so your analysis is just basically just on one end of the court. thanks for finally admitting after 10 pages and after people called you out on it

 

I was waiting for someone to use this to discredit his defense. LOL. That's the thing with stats in a vacuum, though... without context, what do they really tell you? If you want to make the above argument, may as well consider the fact that Jeremy was more likely to be playing alongside Asik (who should have added a boost to his defensive numbers), while Bev was more likely to be playing alongside Smith (who would not provide nearly the same boosting effect).

There are a million ways to inflate or discredit what raw numbers show. If it were as easy as running numbers through a website filter, coaches and GMs would never experiment with their lineups IRL.

 

Yeah, that's the quote I'm replying to. You're claiming that defense doesn't impact what you're discussing here, I'd say it does when you're trying to reach the conclusion on who should start. If you're only trying to talk about offense, then don't include sentences like the one I quoted below.

I wouldn't have used such harsh words if you didn't start. Don't act so offended.

 

I don't think it's about the agenda. You have undoubtedly put in much effort in your post, which is commendable. However, the stats that you posted are taken out of context, and favors one player. Ignoring the defensive end of the floor alone puts Beverley at a huge disadvantage in the discussion of "who fits better".

So, if your analysis is skewed to put one player at a huge disadvantage, you probably should have specifically addressed that in your original post, instead of making this conclusion:

 

Not sure what the hell you are talking about. All OP's stats values post are for offense, with focus on FG% and 3FG%, you now, the ones he hi-lighted in yellow and red to pop up? Where exactly has he been trying to hide that these values are about offense? Stop making stuff up!

 

so basketball is just all about offense.. he concludes JLIN is a better fit and should start and ignores half the aspect of basketball?

 

so FG% is the best gauge for team performance even better than point differential ?

 

Actually that's exactly what you did. Lin is the better offensive player and Beverly is the better defender and rebounder. So you cherry picked the offense and left everything else alone.

 

but you concluded Jeremy should start while PBev should be benched based on better FG% when JLIN is playing right?