1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Iverson top 50?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by HtownRocket1, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. HtownRocket1

    HtownRocket1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    325
    Likes Received:
    3
    Is Allen Iverson a top 50 player of all time?
    N Allen vs Wade who do you pick?

    Ty
     
  2. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,024
    We're talkin bout list, man, list. Just list, you know what I'm sayin, list. We're talkin bout list.
     
  3. King901

    King901 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    1,614
    Likes Received:
    243
    AI in his prime > Dwade in his prime
     
  4. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,145
    Likes Received:
    27,922
    No

    Allen Iverson was an overrated chucker, who took advantage of an all-time bad eastern conference one season to falsely lead people to believe he actually had a major impact on winning.

    His TS% was a pedestrian 52% and his teams were consistently bad offensively. The 76ers and Nuggest both got better when they traded him.

    During his practice rant he honestly had no clue that practice was for making the team better, not himself, which is all he ever thought about. His brand of unwatchable dribble ball made the NBA unwatchable for a period of time.
     
    1 person likes this.
  5. meh

    meh Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,377
    Likes Received:
    2,247
    As the analytical movement continues, AI will be devalued more and more over time. He's much more impressive when you watch his game, as opposed to analyzing him on paper.
     
  6. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,389
    Likes Received:
    5,791
    Ain't no way.
     
  7. Zboy

    Zboy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,956
    NO.

    And he was not better than Wade (with or without the enlarged jaw).

    A relentless and an inefficient selfish chucker who had the green light was what he was.
     
    #7 Zboy, Oct 19, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2013
    1 person likes this.
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    21,643
    Likes Received:
    10,552
    I think anyone who has won a league MVP should be in the top 50.
     
  9. AFS

    AFS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Messages:
    3,776
    Likes Received:
    407
    So Drose is already in your Top50 of all time?
     
  10. HtownRocket1

    HtownRocket1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    325
    Likes Received:
    3
    Well AI is 19th of all time in points, 6th in PPG, PO PPG 2nd, 11 all stars, rookie of the year, MVP (only 28 players were MVP's if I'm not mistaking, Iverson is one of them), 3 times NBA first team. Can make a strong case in top 50 based on that.
     
  11. HtownRocket1

    HtownRocket1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    325
    Likes Received:
    3
    n 4 times scoring champ
     
  12. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,389
    Likes Received:
    5,791
    He had no business whatsoever winning that MVP.

    What is your rationale for that reasoning? You think Wes Unseld and Willis Reed are top 50?
     
  13. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    37,988
    Likes Received:
    15,454
    I don't think you listen to his so-called rant close enough.

    He knew he's supposed to be there, he's knew he's supposed to lead by example. He knew that. And he's wasn't shoving it aside like it don't mean anything. He knew its important. He did, he honestly did. But they were talking about practice, man!
     
    1 person likes this.
  14. Kojirou

    Kojirou Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    6,180
    Likes Received:
    281
    Iverson's fringe top 50 to me, but ROFLMAO at comparing Iverson to Wade. I'd take Wade over Drexler, for crying out loud.
     
  15. Ben Frank

    Ben Frank Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    206
    I disagree with this statement
     
  16. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    42,389
    Likes Received:
    5,791
    I have no problem with that. To each his own.

    My real target was his notion that one-time MVPs should be automatically be considered top 50. That is crazy.
     
  17. mugrakers

    mugrakers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,074
    Likes Received:
    218
    Anyone hating on Iverson has formed their opinions from other hater opinions. He was hands down the best scorer of his generation. Better than Kobe at scoring. You couldn't stop him. He played injured. He played without practice(pun). In the 2004-2005 season he averaged 30.7 pts 7.9 assists 4.0 rebs 2.4 steals playing POINT GUARD.

    All you haters need to wake the hell up lol. He was damn near unstoppable at 6'0 165 pounds. That's like Patrick Beverly light. In fact, an inch shorter and 20 pounds lite.
     
  18. UTKaluman597

    UTKaluman597 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    910
    Likes Received:
    126
    Top 50 for sure...

    He's #19 in all-time scoring, ahead of guys like Wade (#87 alltime), Charles Barkley, Tim Duncan, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Clyde Drexler, Gary Payton.

    He's #12 in steals ahead of guys like Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Ron Artest, and Isaiah Thomas.

    He's #38 in assists ahead of guys like CP3 (for now), Joe Dumars, Tony Parker.

    11 time all-star, Rookie of the year, 2x all-star game mvp and 1 time NBA mvp. 7 time all-nba player (3x 1st team, 3x 2nd team, 1x 3rd team).

    He's a definite future HOF'er as well.

    So yes, top 50 player for sure.
     
  19. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,046
    Wade definitely a better player in their primes but Iverson was easily one of the top three or four most entertaining players for me to watch in person.
     
  20. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,465
    Likes Received:
    1,290

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now