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Jeremy Lin needs to be the sixth man

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by iam, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. rocketblood713

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    lol and those fraction of Lin fans will go to youtube and cry, b**ch and moan to Conservative New Media about how the Rockets are "against" Lin and how McHale is out to make him look bad and how Clutchfans this and Clutchfans that ..
     
  2. PhiSlamma

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    People are going to vent. That is the nature of sports fandom.

    I respect Clutch and ClutchFans and have said that repeatedly in the videos that I make (for Conservative New Media). I am very sure Clutch knows that, and I have said the same thing here on ClutchFans repeatedly.

    I have also said, on ClutchFans, that I will not melt down if Lin doesn't start.

    I can't control what anyone else feels. As McHale said after the game in Taiwan, I think, Jeremy has half the world cheering for him. So his fans are going to make their voices heard.

    The way I look at Lin is something like Tiger Woods in golf. Of course, he's not remotely close to Tiger's ability in his sport. However, there are many fans of Tiger who will not watch golf if he isn't playing. And if they think Tiger is being slighted, they will strongly voice that.

    If there were more successful golfers who were of Tiger's background, then you might not see so much emotional attachment to him. But since that is not the case, there may be more attachment to Tiger. I think a similar thing goes on with Jeremy Lin.

    And I'm ok with that. It's not up to me to tell people they can't root for someone whom they can relate to.

    The issue becomes when the fandom exceeds rationality. You don't want to make the entire NBA world revolve around Jeremy Lin, or else you may not do what is best for the league or your team.

    I understand that. I am a huge fan of Patrick Beverley and I am looking forward to the season, regardless of who starts at point guard.
     
  3. rocketblood713

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    same here! ..
     
  4. dje243

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    So I'm guessing if you reply to a post that gets yanked, your post gets yanked too. Bummer, that was a fun reply to write. Ah well, C'est la vie.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    Fans of Lin shouldn't feel too bad about him possibly coming off the bench. He will still get his minutes and his points. Plus, he will be a huge contributor to a potentially championship squad.
     
  7. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    No one is actually going to read the messages you've quoted because they'll just assume you're right, but I don't think it's proper to call Lin fans "psychotic" and cite those messages as your evidence.

    On review none of those messages were terribly insulting. They may have not been logical or rational but that doesn't give you the right to call them psychotic.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  8. PhiSlamma

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    Well let's do this, then!

    We're all Rockets fans, brother. :cool:
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    Tough crowd tonight.:confused:
     
  10. JustAGuy

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    Wait, I can restore that browser tab and there it is... cool beans.
    Since Clutch specifically mentioned "the fraction of Lin fans that are psychotic," I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's not objecting to all Lin fans.

    Of course, he didn't specify what the fraction was... maybe he meant 99%.

    Yes, that is clearly the fraction he meant, since he didn't say. Dissing 99% of Lin fans is really pretty obnoxious, when you think about it. It probably pulls in some regular fans of the Rockets who also like Lin-- not many, of course, as there can't be many people like that out there. Still, undoubtedly a few misguided souls are like that.

    But hey, you know, it's alright by me because I like Beverley. Everyone knows anyone who likes Beverley hates Lin, so me going on the record like that should keep me safe.
     
  11. JustAGuy

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    'Psychotic' was probably not the word he should have chosen. Maybe 'paranoid', possibly 'deluded'. But he did specifically say "fraction of," so he was presumably meaning a small portion of rather than all of them.
     
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    so your Paul huh ..I tried listening to your video the other day but it mostly about Jeremy Lin u don't give updates on the Rockets as a TEAM ???
     
  14. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    Right, but he specifically quoted people and said "this is what I mean" by "psychotic" Lin fans. And if you read the quotes other than the two quotes that targeted Clutch and CF, all the other posts simply expressed concern that the merged title did not reflect the message of the original thread and in a thread called "Jeremy Lin NEEDS to be the 6th man", well, honestly I can empathize.

    If Clutch really means to use the word "psychotic" and really does think that the people he quoted are psychos, then the dude above me is right - that "fraction" he's referring to is 99% of all Lin fans. Nothing I can do about it but it doesn't sit right with me.
     
  15. Clutch

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    I disagree. Calling it "underhanded" and "biased" is accusing us of being dishonest, deceptive and unethical. I'm sure it's not insulting to you -- it is to us, especially when the action in question was as harmless as they come. I did not call Lin fans psychotic as you quoted me saying... I said a fraction of them are. The quoted posts agreed with the intitial one and ran with the false narrative. They are completely out of touch with reality and we have to deal with it often.
     
  16. ch0c0b0fr34k

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    This is what you said
    right after you quoted 5-10 comments discussing the merged thread. And I didn't say you called all Lin fans psychotic. I said and I quote myself
     
  17. JustAGuy

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    Oh. Well, the 99% thing was humor. It was following a path from rational to irrational in an attempt to be funny.

    And yes you can empathize that there is a difference in the thread titles.

    But can you empathize with where a moderator is coming from? Combining threads is something that happens for them every day. They would naturally think the complaint was ludicrous because they do it all the time, and for the reason of keeping threads from proliferating wildly. So they consistently move or combine threads by topic... this one goes in NBA Dish, this one is on the same topic as another so they combine them, etc. It is actually a lot of work, when added up over the course of a year. The point is to keep the forum easy to navigate.

    So someone is combining two threads, a task they do every day, using the same set of guidelines they use every time (they are on the same subject, stick them together) and suddenly a group of people objects because the name of the thread was different. Well, the names of the threads they are combining are always different. The criteria is the subject.

    And you are telling someone that this thing they do every day is suddenly different for this particular subject, and further that it gives an indication of how you feel about that subject that you combined them.

    He thinks "this is crazy". From his perspective, this is not an unreasonable thought.
     
  18. Clutch

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    Nothing you just said here disputes anything I said. I didn't say you said "all" ... you just left out "fraction."
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    first do you agree with what is said here especially the bolded part? do you understand how far it is from the truth and how insulting it is to the owners and moderators of one the biggest and most popular NBA team fan forums on the internet?

     
  20. apollo33

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    it is actually a mental disorder
     

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