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Why did Dwight Howard take so few shots in the past?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TexanCowgirl, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. TexanCowgirl

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

    Even during his last two seasons with Orlando Magic, in which he was supposed to be at his peak, Howard took only 13.4 shot a game. It's not like he does not get the green lights from the coach to shoot. Strange.

    He took less shots than Yao in average, not to mention Shaq, Ewing, and David Robinson, etc. He must be the best center(supposedly) who took the fewest shots in the game in NBA history.

    Limited offensive skills? Yes? No? Is there something to discuss?
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Because people foul him before he gets his shot off pretty often?
     
  3. Panda23

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    He gets hacked because he is a poor FT shooter
     
  4. TexanCowgirl

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    I am pretty sure Shaq and Yao got hacked more often.
     
  5. Rox23

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    If Yao had the ball anywhere within 10 feet of the basket it was pretty much over; also you didn't want to foul the guy because he hit 80% from the stripe. Dwight can't shoot over people and so he has to muscle his way around them instead (harder to do); also he has no mid-range shot. Hence less shots.
     
  6. jackycool

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    They had much better post moves than Dwight.
     
  7. deshen

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    Shaq? Yes. Yao? No.
     
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    Lol what?
     
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    There's a pattern. No touches, Dwight leaves.
     
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    he meant yao wasnt intentionally hacked for him to shoot free throws like shaq and dwight because he was such a good shooter
     
  11. TheFreak

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    Yes. Limited offensive game, combined with poor foul shooting. Didn't we already know this?
     
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    Yao? Now way. People here complained about how much Yao got hit but it was never close to what Dwight put up with in Orlando.
     
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    I think it is too simplistic to look at shots/game. I am certain that there were plenty of instances where he has to dish it out fro a double team or to a cutting teammate.
     
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    1.) He got fouled a ton. Often before getting a shot off.
    2.) Most teams doubled him in the post. When they didn't Dwight took more shots and usually ended up with 25 points+.
    3.) He's a center with limited range. It's unreasonable to expect a player to take as many shots in, or very to close, to the paint as other players do from all over the court.
    4.) Post play is not what Dwight excels at, which is why more than anything the Magic used Dwight as a screener to collapse the defense and set up high-low entries with Dwight ducking in off the roll.
     
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    Wouldnt say limited offensive skills since clearly he gets his points from somewhere which leads me to the reality that the dude scores and we shouldnt harp on his offensive lack of moves.

    If anything I like this stat to an extent because it means that the dude isnt going to command the ball necessarily. I like that since we have good scoring with harden parsons lin garcia casspi.

    The issue might be that teams that choose to stay at home and not double team dwight are taking that risk that he cant produce. I hope dwight if not from low post even ..but any way possible that he get his within the game. Force feeding dwight is not his game same was iso harden 10 plays in a row isnt really hardens game either. We have to mix it up and I think dwight would thrive in that vs. dump down.

    It will be interesting to see how the rockets respond when howard is not double teamed. I think and hope they wont rely on offense from dwight and that harden and parsons can make them pay too. I really hope we dont try to dump down to appease dwight or that dwight expect dump down.

    Just like dwight talks about roles with jeremy, dwight needs to understand roles.. that yes scoring is needed but he just needs to focus on getting to a spot and letting lin and harden and motion get him his touches. If he can buy in he will get his like he has before.. and will get to sit by 3rd quarter blowout city.

    Dwight needs to get his from flow and from what I see he will be getting a ton of garbage points. His presence on defense alone is huge.
     
  16. TexanCowgirl

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    A legitimate question.

    One star thread?

    People don't like the truth.
     
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    People do not like complexity. If it does not fit into a Twitter box they will not read it and cannot begin to understand it.
     
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    Howard is a 20+ ppg scorer just like Shaq and Yao. In Houston with Lin and Harden he should really shine. He has never played with a dribble drive guard before. Or for that matter with a top PnR guard, of which Houston has two.
     
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    Shots/game can be misleading to certain players who get fouled and turned the ball over a lot. The better stats to use should be offensive possessions/game.

    In an average game, each team has about 100 offensive possessions. If you break those down, they include TO's, FT's, and shot attempts. If you add up all Dwight's offensive possessions, you will find close to 25 possessions ended with Dwight (13.4 shots/game season).

    He averaged 36 min/game. 36/48*100 or roughly 75 offensive possessions available while he is on the court.

    The percentage of possessions that ended up with Dwight becomes 25/75 or 33%. For a player who lacks the midrange game and actually undersize for center, it's a decent percentage to me.
     
  20. mrjohn

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    Compared to them, Dwight has less offense so he's getting the ball less (guess).
     

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