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Look how much McHale hates Jeremy

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CXbby, Oct 13, 2013.

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  1. JBar

    JBar Rookie

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    Awesome analogy! Almost like something that flows from the pen of that sports journalist god Friedman. Hey, why haven't you joined the fan club yet? Hasn't babymama sent you an invite?
     
  2. sirbaihu

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    This is as much as I found on this quote. I hope someone can find more.

    Here are Lin's numbers for the game in question (v. Brooklyn 2/22/2013):
    36 minutes
    FGM-A: 4/11
    3PM-A: 0-2
    REB: 2
    AST: 6
    STL: 0
    BLK: 0
    TO: 5
    PF: 3
    +/- 0
    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278535

    Actually what McHale said--29 pts 9 turnovers--sounds better than the reality--9 pts 5 turnovers--to me.

    Here is part of the ESPN game recap:

    Here is what Lin did in the 4th quarter, which I guess is what prompted McHale to make his comments:

    7:37 Jeremy Lin enters the game for Patrick Beverley
    7:01 Jeremy Lin defensive rebound
    6:41 Jeremy Lin misses 25-foot three point jumper
    5:47 Jeremy Lin misses 24-foot three point jumper (13 seconds left on the shot clock)
    4:07 Jeremy Lin offensive Charge (C.J. Watson draws the foul)
    4:07 Jeremy Lin turnover
    3:11 Jeremy Lin makes two point shot
    2:42 Jeremy Lin misses 6-foot two point shot
    0:28 Jeremy Lin makes free throw 1 of 2
    0:28 Jeremy Lin misses free throw 2 of 2

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400278535&period=4

    Maybe people's expectations that Jeremy go all Linsanity was pushing him to swing for the fences last season. I would agree with McHale that with an eight-point lead and six minutes left, you don't necessarily want to start taking your only three-pointers of the game. Delfino and Harden were much hotter than Lin in this game, so you probably go to them in the middle of the fourth.

    Note: McHale did not pull Jeremy from the game even though he was trying to hit the home run.
     
  3. JustAGuy

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    It does kind of make me wonder if that is what Morey sees him as. Maybe his interviews where he defends Lin aren't merely to pump up his trade value or automatic defense of a player on his team, but literally what his stats are telling him. Morey loves the three point shot (high risk/high reward) and Lin's play is exactly analagous to that, excluding the normal rookie style errors.
     
  4. JBar

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    For a second there I misconstrued who "him " was. I thought you meant: does Morey see Friedman as a journalist or PR flack?

    But, yeah, what's not to like about Lin? Exciting player. Fifth best player, in my opinion, on a great team.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    Well on the day in question, Lin was the 0-for-2-three-point-shot-when-up-by-eight-with-six-minutes-left-in-the-game point guard.
    http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400278535&period=4
     
  6. j3i

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    Whoa let's not go there. Especially with Taiwan's history...
     
  7. sirbaihu

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    I would like to observe your preference for feelings over facts. During the game in question, the offense WAS working: the Rockets were up by eight with 6 minutes left in the game. Lin may in fact have short-circuited the offense by jacking his first two 3-pointers of the game, but that was not a good thing.

    Lin fans sit here stroking each other while blithely ignoring the facts in front of their faces. I mean the game stats are right in your face.

    "Lin is the Harvard of PG's and Beverley is the University of Phoenix."
    "Lin is the Lamborghini of PG's and Beverley is the Hyundai."
    "Lin is the creme brulee and Beverley is the vienna sausage."

    Can we come back to reality please?
     
  8. JustAGuy

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    I'm not referring to the specific game after which McHale had an interview, nor was McHale referring only to that game in his interview. He was describing Lin's style of play, not Lin's play in that one game. In particular, I don't think he has a problem with Lin shooting the ball when he is open; outside of very specific game circumstances, he wants all the players to shoot the ball when they are open.

    I'd tell you to watch the interview, but I don't have a link to it.
     
  9. roslolian

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    Uh, no not really. X Only Fans are pretty common, it happens when you follow a team because of one specific player, so commonly Chinese people before only went to the forum to cheer on Yao Ming, and not the Rox as a whole. You'd have them fuming when Yao has a bad game when the Rox wins, or have them happy when the team loses but Yao had a great game.

    LOHs oth, are just an excuse LOFs made to justify their own existence, a sort of mythical yang to balance their yin. Think about though, even if you hate Lin will you go to all the trouble of creating a fan account just to egg on the dude? It doesn't make sense, just like how Mchale is supposed to be the biggest Lin hater when it's his best interest to have Lin succeed and get him wins.
     
  10. don grahamleone

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    Statements like that make me believe you are 14.
     
  11. sirbaihu

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    Well, McHale was being interviewed after a specific game, Houston@Brooklyn, 2/22/2013. So I wonder why you think he was not being specific to that game, especially since you have no link to anything, and I already provided a link which clearly puts it in the context of the game.

    Let's assume you are right though: McHale's referring to Lin's overall style. So Lin jacked two three pointer when up by eight with six minutes to go, his first 3-pointers of the game, and missed them both. Is that his style? Or was that a deviation from his style and not representative, although what Coach said after the game WAS representative of Coach?

    You say

    But I thought you just said he has a bias against the home-run hitter. . . .

    And how do you know Lin was open when he jacked his threes in the Brooklyn game?

    Am I being too specific to actual historical events?
     
  12. JustAGuy

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    1) yes, you are being too specific
    2) it was not the aftergame interview where he said that. It was an after practice interview that was somewhere in the vicinity of that game.
     
  13. rokit

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    No, he was referring to OKC game on (2/20/2013), where Lin had 29/7/6 and 3 TO...so yeah, what McHale said sounds a lot worse than reality
     
  14. sirbaihu

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    You failed to say whether his 2 jacked threes in the Brooklyn game were typical or anomalous.

    Does anyone besides me have a link to anything containing the "home run" quote? If not, then the quote remains linked to a Friday-night game in Brooklyn, as reported by the New York Daily News.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...-pins-needles-article-1.1271479#ixzz2hiMxjYN8
     
  15. JustAGuy

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    Please let's not rehash all the garbage surrounding that interview. It was sufficiently covered in the 85 pages of the thread back then.
     
  16. durvasa

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    I do see some level of similarity, but it comes down to the evidence with Morey (and should for anyone else). With the 3-point shot, there is a lot of evidence that the rewards outweigh the downside. Is there a similar amount of evidence to support entrusting high-turnover "feast or famine" type players, particular at the your lead guard spot?
     
  17. sirbaihu

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    You surrender.
     
  18. JustAGuy

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    I have no idea; I certainly haven't seen anything like that publicly, but that doesn't mean Morey doesn't have a huge stack of data, with footnotes.

    I do know high turnover, attacking perimeter player is a type in that paper from a thread I can't frickin remember the name of, so I would assume there is enough data available to make some conclusions.
     
  19. langal

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    we are a bunch of gossiping housewives here!!

    "Well I heard that McHale said this about Jeremy!"

    - "No way he did that! He must hate Jeremy!"

    "Well just because he said it doesn't mean he hates him ... no matter what the other gals say!"

    - "Maybe. But I saw Bev and McHale shopping for shoes together at the mall last night. And then Jeremy got benched the next day!"
     
  20. justbuckets

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    LOL

    that big brother head hug moment got me right in the feels, man.
     

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