Per Scola, the Rockets were not looking for a ring

Adelman left for a number of reasons, all which boil down to control and vision. Adelman wanted to go to war with what he had, and Morey didn't think the team was good enough to compete. Adelman was very upset with the deals Morey made close to the deadline, and didn't agree with Morey on certain talent evaluation issues. Further, Adelman did not play the players Morey wanted him to play, and did not buy into advanced statistics.

Morey wanted to add Finch to the coaching staff and Adelman didn't want any part of that. Adelman believed he should have a huge say in trades, draft picks and contract negotiations; which Morey didn't like.

Adelman can act like he was pushed out, but he wasn't staying if he didnt get a greater say in trades, etc.

Adelman knows his X's and O's, but his attitude and mediocre GM skills are not missed. Let him sign Batum and Bud and we will let Morey get Harden and Howard.

 

I remember the tears that welled up in my eyes in 2011 when I realized that the dream of a Heat-Rockets finals were not going to be realized - I really thought Scola and Hasheem Thabeet were going to be the riddle the Heat could not solve.

Kudos to Luis for not being as gullible as I was and calling out the Rockets for that fraudulent title push.

 

Could use a little Scola on the Rockets.

That PF spot needs some experience.

 

insider info is always right. scola is the man.

 

Pure nonsense! We have always been going after the ring....


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I mean... what's so good about rings anyway? I think they're overrated.

 

Where did you get this? Of course any coach wants to have a say about personnel decisions. I remember McHale expressed some displeasure about some personnel decisions too. And most GMs consult their coaches for these matters. You want your players to fit your coach's style, and vice versa. I have never heard Adelman or Morey quoted to say anything about Adelman wanted HUGE control of a GM's job.

No head coach wanted the GM to force anyone into his coaching staff, especially when you were told that this guy was going to be "groomed" to replace you. It seemed at that time that this was the deal breaker for Adelman to stay.

And what coach would not be mad when 40% of your starting lineup was traded away while you were in the heat of a playoffs run? I think both Adelman and Morey have said that those differences could be worked out. They both understood the dynamics between the coach and the GM.

 

It's not a knock on the Rockets. Yao got hurt and we were looking to make the playoffs and/or rebuild the following years. That's all he's saying. Scola's a Rocket for life and I'm super pumped he gets a chance to chase a ring.

 

NEVER underestimate the power of the ring...


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Brad Miller, Chase Budinger, Kevin Martin going to Minnesota.

Kelvin Sampson, Chris Finch, JB Bickerstaff. No one from McHale's old Minnesota background. So obviously at least one candidate was open to the idea.

I don't know exactly what goes behind the scenes, but looking back in hindsight, it does seem that there was a power play between Morey and Adelman. And Adelman lost. Going to Minnesota looked like Adelman got pissed and went to a place where he was kind of a semi-GM maybe as a screw you to Morey.

In hindsight, the Rockets sure look like they made the no-brainer right move.

 

May be I have missed something. Before he went to Minny, Adelman had never been known as a coach who wanted to be a semi-GM. Again, almost all experienced coaches wanted to have some say in personnel decisions. I mean, look at JVG's rosters and Rudy T's rosters. And look around the league of all those head coaches.

McHale was pretty much a rookie in head coaching. He didn't have the same clout as those other coaches who have successful coaching resumes. If what you say is true, I guess Morey didn't want any experienced coaches because none of those would just quietly let him do whatever he wanted in building the team.

I don't want to argue about whether Adelman would have been great for the team's future. That has already been debated to death. I just wanted to set the records straight whenever someone used some unfounded reasons (such as "he wanted a huge say in personnel decision") to justify the FO for letting the coach go.

 

Heck wasnt it Mchale that wanted White? Great choice (such a wasted talent)

 

Preach on Luis!

He speaks the truth about Les's attitude of many years that has changed of late now that he has Dwight/Harden and 1, 000, 000, 000 in the bank from Far East investments.

 

And the Rockets signed Bobby Jackson, Brad Miller, and perhaps others while Adelman's here. Under McHale? No random scrub from Minnesota days afaik.

By all accounts, Rick Carlisle just took it when Cuban broke up his team and signed random players to 1 year contract. So much so that Carlisle had a team that couldn't run the freaking Pick and Roll/Pop with Dirk on the court.

And so what if you can only get rookie head coaches? Pat Riley rules Miami with an iron fist, and only hired his underlings in SVG and Eric Spoelstra. How did that work out?

 

rick adelman loves the lottery!

 

Well, it worked out fine AFTER the Decision. He threw SVG under the bus when the going got tough, and took over the coaching when he got Shaq.

Anyway, I am not arguing whether we should have kept Adelman. I was just debunking myths about WHY Adelman left.

 

barely had a team that could fight for a playoff spot. of course we're not going for a ring. but now muahahaha jokes on you scola.

srs if hibbert can score in the mid teens... west, hibbert, scola will be a threat to the heat. cant wait to see how indy goes

 

After that '09 series, the Rockets were very mediocre until we got Harden and Howard.

 

Bobby Jackson was acquired in a trade. We gave away Mike James & Bonzi Wells. I enjoyed BJax's short tenure here.

A lot of people though Brad Miller was a perfect fit, too bad it was about 5 years too late for Brad.

Mchale was a failure in Minnesota, of course we didn't bring those players.

But I do agree, guys like Adelman & JVG were obviously involved in player decisions, bringing in a lot of their former players. Though Morey still ruled over them.

 

This. And he's right.