I hope Bev and Lin discussion can ends with this thread

Harden plays 40mins per game.
Lin can't have ball more by coming off the bench.

In Playoffs, starters play more minutes.

Beverley's aggressive D can't be the same for the whole game and full season.

 

I, for one, never grow tired of the Lin/Bev debate - let the good times roll!

 

Harden doesn't play 40 minutes a game.

Assuming his minutes are cut down from last season, he could be playing 35-36 minutes a game. That's a full quarter of minutes without Harden on the court.

 

Agreed! How about a Lin only area so the rest of us can productive discussions. "Clean up the rest of the board" is an understatement.

 

Apparently the Rockets are not talented enough. That's what I got from the OP's blathering.

 

Lin is American. Also, Ginobili came off the bench but always got the most minutes played at the SG position. In both preseason games, regardless of who started, Beverley got more minutes than Lin.

I don't care who starts or finishes as long as the better player gets the most minutes.

 

end? even our beloved head coach is still in discussion.

but good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

But if you do that, the rest of the forum would look like the Toyota center corporate boxes at tip-off time ...

 

I have never found the need to join/post on CF but have decided to start doing so in face of these kinds of threads. Time to impart some basketball knowledge on you.

To say that Jeremy Lin is "better than Bev so he should start" shows your lack of knowledge of the game of basketball. I love the game, am passionate about, have coached it, and thus have studied it immensely. I am by no means advocating nor championing the idea that Jeremy Lin should come off the bench as the 6th man. I am by no means a self-proclaimed "expert." However, I am going to state why it makes sense and should not be written off as McHale being "racist," trying to destroy Lin's career, etc. etc. Put your pre-conceived notions aside and try to listen to reason.

Strategically a move such as this makes sense. Look, Lin is a good PG and I believe most people can agree with that. However, the problem is making him fit with the likes of Harden, Howard, and Parsons. You even stated yourself that they are starters. Harden and Howard require the ball. Harden does great things with the ball in his hands and demands defensive attention. Howard works down low to fight for position (to score or for defensive rebounds). Parsons is a great off the ball slasher and spot up shooter. He doesn't create for himself....that's not his game. What does this leave Lin with? He becomes a spot up shooter. That's not his game. He needs the ball to attack, draw defensive attention, and run the offense.

Thus, to have Lin come off the bench makes sense in that his style of play would fit better with players who do not demand the ball. Look at what Lin can do with a secondary unit. Look at what he did during Linsanity....he did not have A'mare nor Melo. It was a bunch of bench players which he elevated to a higher level of play. This creates match-up nightmares for opposing coaches. Lin can play well against starters....we've all seen that. Imagine him doing the same thing against a BENCH. Your argument that a bench does not win championships is laughable. So many great teams have lost because they lack bench production. Because guess what? Guys need to rest. Also, because of Lin's attacking style you're looking at getting teams into foul trouble VERY early on because of Harden's ability to draw fouls. That means more foul shots, more points, more opposing players in foul trouble, etc. This is a HUGE part of coaching strategy that I have employed myself.

So you have the scoring power of Harden, Howard, and Parsons to deal with then you have Lin coming off the bench to continue the scoring attack. Stagger the minutes so that Lin gets some time with Howard and Parsons to create different looks and you can have the recipe for a deadly, constant, offensive attack.

Not only that, you have HOWARD to start and ASIK to back him up in the paint? To me that is a recipe that I can see working. Again I am not advocating for this to happen. However, from a coaching perspective it does make sense.

The "best" lineup is not always the best lineup. Lakers anyone? Everyone thought it was going to be such a killer team with so many superstars. Guess what? It wasn't because their styles don't mesh. Not only that....their bench was terrible.

Is it a race thing? I can't say nor can I speak for anyone else. However, I'm simply stating why this makes sense and why I could see it happening.

BTW, I'm Asian and a die-hard Lin fan. Just saw Linsanity last night. I felt the need to state this so that I don't get labeled as an irrational LOH.

 

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These champion teams had another facilitator, Wade, Gasol, Pippen.

 

this is not going to make the PB and Lin discussion stop especially if McHale keeps rotating the PG in the preseason I don't have a problem with it cause im a team first guy so as long as the Rockets win im good but cant say the same thing for other people on this thread

 

it looks like lin is harden, exchangible

 

As Dream said, Lin and Howard combo can be deadly.

They should get more time playing together.

 

what about harden? should he starts with 2nd units? or lin and howard should sit on bench?

 

Thank you OP for ending the lin bev debates!

 

I'm here for the ends..

 

Look, you can make the case that Parsons or Howard can fill those roles. Point being, you can win a championship with a PG like Bev. The PG position is not really the issue. That's the funny thing in all this. This site makes it sound like if we don't win a championship, it's going to be because of Lin or Bev. That's ridiculous. They're both adequate contributors. It's going to come down to Howard and Harden.

 

Me too. I'm just here to be a part of the last conversation about Beverly and Lin. Thank you OP for making this thread and making me a part of something.

 

Didn't say that but I guess you're free to read into a snippet of what I wrote. Point is they're not complimentary players.