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Daryl Morey in Athens Scouting Giannis Adetokunbo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. Joe Joe

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    He has to sign paper that says he won't seek to play in NBA. Being under contract only means he doesn't count against cap during the season when he can no longer get a buyout.
     
  2. heypartner

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    Can you be more specific?

    Is he under contract for a FIBA team or not? That's all that matters to whether we are forced to offer him a contract.

    If he is under contract right now in Spain, then the Spainish team rules his destiny. He has to ask for clearance from FIBA to "seek to play in NBA." His FIBA team can block that request.

    Am I missing something in what you are explaining? You seem to say he's in control. Why?

    Can he afford a buyout by himself without the help of an NBA team who drafted him?

    See what I'm saying. If he is under contract in Spain, he really has no control over where he plays this year, except maybe if he can afford the buyout himself.

    But then, at best, and maybe well after the July Moratorium, he can become a Free Agent in the NBA if he drafted team fails to tender an Rookie offer. But then, really, does he think he'll get a rookie scale type contract as a free agent.
     
  3. Joe Joe

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    The cap hold for a 1st round pick on a non-NBA contract ends when player signs contract or 1st day of regular season. Whichever is later. Cap hold goes back onto team every July first and disappears at start of each season. Whether he can be offered contract by Rockets does not matter. To get out of cap hold during offseason, team needs to get letter from player saying he won't play in the NBA for the season.

    This is paraphrased from Coon's FAQ.
     
  4. Z-Ro&Trae

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    people suspect that he's going to be gone by the time the rocket pick surfaces anyway, unless the rockets trade up.
     
  5. heypartner

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    OK, I get it, but can you please point to the paragraph? I can't find it.

    My understanding is there is no cap hold if you don't offer the "Required Tender" on a drafted player. The cap hold is, in fact, the Tendered offer. You have until July 16th to offer that or the player becomes a free agent. My understanding is the player has to be eligible to become an NBA free agent for the tender to even be required.

    Signed FIBA players are not eligible to be NBA free agents, so I thought NBA teams don't need to send them a tender, thus no cap hold.

    Of course, I could be wrong that they still have to offer the tender no matter what; thus I cap hold. But I don't see that stated clearly about players under contract with FIBA teams. Are teams really at the mercy of getting a OK Letter from the Player. Something seems weird about that.

    anyhoot: thx for answering my question. and tia for the quote from Coon.
     
  6. Joe Joe

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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q50
     
  7. hooroo

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    Gone to the Bucks
     
  8. heypartner

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    Another comment here is about whether Giannis is Greek or not.

    One thing they said on the NBA Draft night show was, "He has never been outside of Greece his whole life until recently on a national U18 game."

    lols
     
  9. giddyup

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    Any chance of T-Rob being moved for this guy... at the opportune time?

    Does it really matter what an 18 YO kid wants in the scheme of things? The last 18YO kid to get his way thusly was Kobe Bryant....
     
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    He has Nicholas Batum written all over him. I think Batum came in at 18 also? Moot now anyway.
     
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    Thought he might end up being good, but not for a few years. Not bad...
     
  12. BigBenito

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    errr.. did a search and assumed this thread was in the draft section. My bad.
     
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    Wow.

    Impressive in so many ways. Step back J at 18 y/o?? Knocking out the jump shooter on the perimeter. Recovering for the block on the drive. Stroke looks great. Handle looks good. D looks great. Wow.
     
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    Terrible game against Minnesota last night, 7 TO. 1-6 from the field.

    He's a superstar talent, only thing that can lead him astray is $$$ and p***y
     
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    Very impressed. Obviously just preseason, but looks highly skilled at a young age. Good pick for the Bucks who need to gamble on high potential players.
     
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    Hes gonna be beast once he puts on muscle on his frame! 2-3blocks, 7rebs should be easely achievable for him even now. Im not even talking about his offensive potential.
     
  17. haoafu

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    I watched some of his preseason games, and I'm convinced of his potential.

    He seems to be a longer Batum with handle, or a lesser Durant but with more aggression. The look in his eyes is something impressed me the most - he has that killer instinct if I'm not mistaken.

    BTW his only field goal last night is actually pretty impressive...have you ever seen Durant using Harden's euro step?
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Sad thing about his age and rawness are that it will force Milwaukee to have to overpay to keep him even if he isn't panning out like a typical rookie. He'll be due an extension when most players are signing rookie deals.
     
  19. nobie

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    i just how they play him atleast 20mins per game so he actually develops and not just sit him on bench...
     
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    Durant doesn't need to use Harden's euro step, lol.
     

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