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So I finally started lifting, I'll post all of my questions here.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by OldfanofTmac, Oct 5, 2013.

  1. OldfanofTmac

    OldfanofTmac Member

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    Okay, so I'm what you'd call 'skinny-fat'

    I look / am skinny I guess, but I do have excessive fat that I want to get rid of. From knees to chest, I have extra fat that I want to get rid of.

    So I know I'm new to lifting, but will this fat get replaced by muscle in due time, or should I / am I supposed to be doing additional exercises during my off days to get rid of this fat?

    Please advise.
     
  2. GanjaRocket

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    fat doesn't get 'replaced' technically..

    you need to build muscle to burn more fat at your resting rate.

    so eat enough to gain some muscle but don't go calorie negative
     
  3. OldfanofTmac

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    That's what I don't understand. You need to eat more to gain muscles which would in turn burn fat. But if you don't eat a lot, you won't gain muscle or burn fat. Hard to comprehend. Please elaborate?
     
  4. OldfanofTmac

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    This is what BB.com says :

    They say to reduce calories you eat, but you ^ and others say you have to eat more.

    I'm also struggling to get all of that protein grams in my diet, it's tough since I can't eat chicken breast / steak that often, too expensive. What I've been doing is eating 3 whole wheat sandwiches of either pb&j or tuna which gives me about 50 g of protein, in addition to pasta, which probably only gives 20-30, and then after that, I run out of things to eat to give protein.
     
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    It depends on your goal bro.
    Are you trying to cut fat, or gain muscle? Technically you can do both if you are just starting to work out but if you want to do both you have to CUT you can't BULK and lose fat. Eat less calories, consume more protein. Its just a restructuring of your diet.

    Do not consume steak. Consume lean chicken breast.

    You will gain muscle because you are a beginner. Once you plateau you will need to start bulking/cutting cycles. That won't matter for months down the road.
     
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    Chicken is expensive :confused: Chicken is cheap compared to other proteins. Go to Sam's or Costco - you can get a tray of chicken breasts for around 11 bucks and should last you at least 3 to 4 days.
     
  7. OldfanofTmac

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    My goal is to gain muscle and move away from being as scrawny as I am (aside from this extra fat that Im trying to get rid of) , so it sounds like I want to bulk, but I don't want to gain more fat, just muscle.

    Which route do you think I should go knowing that I want to get thicker (as in muscle) as well as burning this extra fat.

    I weighed / measured myself yesterday when i was at doctor. I'm now 6'2 (with shoes on, probably 6'1.5 without, but I'll just go with 6'2 :p ) and I weigh 187.

    Bulking would put me at over 200 lbs, which I don't want to get to. My ideal weight is 185 lbs. So perhaps I should cut, and therefore eat less calories? I dunno man, I'm confused.

    I have a strict diet, so I can only eat halal meat (kind of like kosher) , so its more expensive than your average supermarket meat.
     
  8. OldfanofTmac

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    ^

    In addition to that, another Q.

    I usually do 3-4 sets on each exercise. All of my sets are 'heavy'

    But I heard other people recommend starting off your 1st set with light weight, then 2nd set medium weight, then 3rd and 4th sets with your 'heavy' weights.

    What do you guys think? the bodybuilding forum's beginner workout didn't specify this.
     
  9. RV6

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    Have you even bothered to do more research on your own?? I keep advising you to and to seek professional help, but it doesn't seem like you're interested in following that advise. I told you this would become a cycle, since you can't out together the bits of information you're being given, and that's exactly what is happening. Quit trying to fast forward the process. Read up, research, learn. There is more out there than bb.com. Look for your answers and in the process you'll learn more than you planned to. Trial and error is part of the learning process. Actually put some work in for more than a few days. But again, get medically cleared first. The last thing you want is to blow out your knee before you've even had any gains.
     
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    What is the doctor going to tell him? Use him when you are hurt and on roids then yes.
     
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    I buy 5lb bags from Sam's for about $30.

    Haha, who is this guy? The essence of douche resonates strong with him. "You mirin?"
     
  12. OldfanofTmac

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    I don't know why this bothers you so much. I've gone away from the questions pertaining to my knee, so I don't know why you brought that back up.

    Others on here have provided me with great answers, so I will continue to ask.

    And I have done research. Not much, but I have been reading info.
     
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    With your weight, take in about 1800-1900 calories a day and you will start losing the fat if you are taking in at least 150 grams of protein a day.

    You need to include protein shakes into your diet or you will never reach that goal with just meats, beans, etc...

    Always have at least 20 grams of protein within about 30 minutes of waking up in the morning.

    Example: Wake up and eat 3-4 eggs.

    A couple hours later, snack on some almonds.

    Lunch: Grilled chicken salad

    A couple hours later, have a protein bar.

    After work/school, hit the gym and pound a protein shake.

    Dinner: Tuna, chicken, or salmon with veggies.

    Hit the gym at least 3 times a week, preferably 4.
     
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    ^All good points.


    Eating healthy is pretty easy but can be expensive.

    It's rather simple. Lean protein, complex carbs, fruits and veggies. Minimal fat (nuts, etc are okay), minimal sugar. Low carb whey protein shake once a day helps curb the appetite. Eat something like bran flakes or oatmeal in the morning. Cook eggs, fish (talipia is cheapest and most bang for your buck) with fat free cooking spray or minimal olive oil.


    Working out is trickier, IMO. I see a lot of people that don't know what the hell they're doing. Don't be that guy.
     
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    A legend that revolutionized what muscle fitness should look like. You idolin?
     
  16. OldfanofTmac

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    Thanks man, I appreciate it.

    I usually don't have time to eat 3-4 eggs in the morning since I'm always in a hurry to get to school, so I have a bagel instead, is that fine? Should I eat one bagel or 2, with cream cheese or without?

    Afterwards, I don't eat until I get home around 3 p.m - where I usually have pasta with meat sauce, or rice with meat.

    Then I don't eat until night, where I'll have tuna sandwiches.

    On days of workout, I take 2 scoops of whey protein (50 grams of protein) . I usually don't take whey protein on off days, because that will get expensive having to buy a 5 lb tub every month or so.

    I will take your advice and snack on some peanuts or almonds in between breakfast and lunch. And other protein sources in between lunch and dinner.

    Sounds good. 1800-1900 calories a day, with 150 grams of protein. Doing this, I will reduce my body fat as well as gain muscle, correct?
     
  17. OldfanofTmac

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    In addition, since I'm trying to burn off some fat, does this mean absolutely no 'junk food' - such as an occasional bag of chips, some cereal, etc? Or can i snack on those things once in a while?
     
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    i'd replace the bagel with wheat toast or a healthy cereal. avoid carbs as much as you can
     
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    what's wrong with carbs?

    wheat toast- sure I could do that. 2-3 slices of wheat toast will give me about 8-12 grams of protein. Not quite the 20 grams that rezdawg was recommending.
     
  20. fallenphoenix

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    if you're trying to cut fat then losing carbs is an easy way to do that. if you're trying to bulk up, then it's not really a problem to consume carbs. in fact carbs are a good way to retain muscle mass

    all i've read is that you're "skinny fat" so i'm not sure what your goals at are this time.
     

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