B(er, E)SPN: Rockets not done dealing

Yes, Portland will throw away their best player for lesser parts and more money and more roster spots.

 

dude you are ruining it. stop bringing up facts. dont you get it ? doomsday and free throws man.

 

There is no logic in that trade. If they trade him away, it's for very talented young players.

 

Fan boards are all about expressing opinions, right? That's one of the main reasons we're all here. You might be agnostic on the matter, but there's no problem with people voicing opinions on the subject, no?

 

"Last regular season alone, the two combined to miss 497 free throws."

Spoiler

 

I think we are getting a stretch all round power forward.. Our system is very fluid and with players like Omer and DH, that fluidity is compromised because they are purely paint players.

It's a pity we had to give up PPat, he would work very well in our system now

 

I'd sweeten the pot and direct this trade to Minny and try to get Love. He is the perfect fit. Both are about as likely to happen anyways.

 

no mention of dmo though

 

The conventional wisdom in the NBA is that certain things won't(or can't) work......until someone tries and it does work. After watching all these people claim that Bismack Biyombo can't be a starting point guard, Im gonna die laughing if he figures out how to make it work.

To clarify my position.....I dont know if it will work or not...there is only one way to find out tho...and I'm reserving judgment till I see it for myself.

Wish others here could do the same.

 

This is the only thing giving me hope. Smith & Asik were a heck of a duo, and arguably the best PF/C combo we fielded post Patterson's departure. With that said, I have confidence it'll work.

I don't remember how Smith/Asik worked, I just know our 1,2, and 3 were being aggressive.

I think Asik playing 30mpg is a reach given he played 30mpg last year and his conditioning wasn't great, there's more depth now, and it's a different dynamic. I can see 10mpg at PF and about 10-12mpg backing up Dwight. If Dwight's playing 33mpg that's "ideal", but not really going to happen. He needs to be in the 35-38mpg zone, he's our star.

 

All we need is one more glue guy I really don't trust our bench that much I don't trust casspi or Williams or brewer Beverly and asik assuming he comes of the bench are the only ones I trust I just don't want our starters having to play so many minutes we need one more guy off the bench who will dependable night in and night out ps and I'm not talking about Garcia either

 

Asik is Turkish, Bismack is from Congo

 

I want to see the new Twin Towers before making any judgement. It might benefit us in the long run to have a bruising front court all the time. They'll look slow at times (maybe) but as the game progress, it's still advantageous to have the "insides" well patrolled and controlled.

 

If we keep Asik for too long we will end up losing him for nothing. When his contract is up and the end of next year he is likely leaving for a starting position on a team that will pay him more. We don't have to rush to trade Asik but at some point in time we are going to need to move him.

 

Next year = 2014-2015 season

 

Now:

To Minny:
Thaddeus Young

To Philly:
J.J. Barea
DMo
GSmith
TJones

To Houston:
Derrick Williams
Chris Johnson
Philly 2014 second rounder
Minny 2014 second rounder


On Dec. 15th:

To Minny:
Thaddeus Young

To Philly:
J.J. Barea
DMo
GSmith
Ronnie Brewer

To Houston:
Derrick Williams

 

OK, at the end of the game it is an issue. Otherwise. . . .

They still made 523 FT, at 51%. Suppose they shot 75% . . . they would have hit 242 more FT. So they left about 242 points on the table, over 82 games. About 3 points a game. (No one hits 100% FT. What FT% do you ask of your centers?)

And they had 1020 FTA. They're still drawing a whole lot of fouls. That has value in itself, putting teams in the penalty, fouling people out. . . . Balance that against maybe three points a game lost to exceptionally bad FT%. I don't think it's a big deal.

 

You don't play them late. You play them early. Let the opponents burn early foul and run up foul count early trying to water down our efficiency. Then...when we are in the bonus with 8-10 minutes left in each quarter you start alternating the bigs and bring in your shooters and pour it on. Same thing at the end of the game. Alternate bigs. If we need a defensive stop on a half-court set, plug in both guys.

 

Nice, but McHale and Sampson aren't exactly possession lineup geniuses at the end of games.

 

I'm not worried about the Asik/Howard combo in the regular season. What I'm worried about is the good defensive teams, who have the discipline, intelligence, and athleticism we are likely to see in the playoffs who, when one of Asik or Howard gets the ball, will help off the other and have time to recover back if the open man gets the ball, lowering our efficiency to a 50% layup or something like that, or an otherwise tough jumpshot if they pass it out. This scenario plays out even early in the game because good defensive teams, the teams we are likelier to play in the playoffs, don't need to foul.

In addition, the more teams play against our unorthodox frontcourt, the more likely they are to figure out a way to defend against it, whereas Asik and Howard are not more likely to develop skills to counter their adjustments. Other teams I thought last year were just not ready to defend against the dual garbagemen Asik/Smith lineup last year because it was likely their first time playing against it, so our guys were still effective despite the lack of complementary offensive skills. This won't be the case if Asik/Howard is our primary lineup this season, especially in the playoffs, when it actually counts.