McHale: We want to try to give Ömer close to Thïrty mpg

You can't isolate the offense to just two players. You have to look at the whole team. Do you not agree? Are you saying you are not going to consider Harden's superstar talent when describing what our offense can and can't do. None of the teams you mentioned, except Utah, had a superstar talent guard on their team. So, of course, they better spread the floor, because their guards needed that help. Our guards don't.

• Jordan didn't need Grant and Cartwright to spread the floor, and
• Kobe didn't need Shaq and AC Green to spread the floor either

They both still got into the lane, and so will Harden.

You are overplaying this "one of them must shoot" because you are not counting Harden's superstar talent.

 

30 mpg is good utilization of Asik's talent. If we cant find a way to use him at least 26-28mpg, it means the experiment didn't work.

 

I'd rather have 2 guys taking out the trash than have one guy jacking up trashy 30% 3-point shots and trashy 40% long 2-point shots.

 

We should call them the TRASH TOWERS

I know but we cant sit howard and asik all game worried about free throws.

Look I agree that there are deficiencies in the howard asik combo but the defense upside is just so overwhelming that it at least has to be tried. And not half ass tried thats why I wish asik would hurry up and get out there so we can see it and experiment in preseason which is what preseson is for. Im willing to accept if it doesnt work that it doesnt work but we HAVE to try it and try it extensively. Asik and howard are THAT good inside it deserves it. Especially considering DMo and Jone at this point dont deserve squat.

 

I agree with the conclusion you are drawing, but AC Green and Bill Cartwright may not be the best examples to use in this scenario. Both of those guys would hit the 18 footer when paired with MJ and Kobe.

 

Those teams didnt have to have a Superstar wing, They had a Superstar PG and PF.
Yes everything is factored indeed. I am curious to see the spacing. Are you factoring in when the penetration isnt there and Harden and Howard are covered, the ball is pass to Asik for a wide open mid range shot. Or the ball is rotated and end up in Asik hands for a base line jumper.

I am not saying that its not going to work pimpn. I hope , if this is the starting line up, that it works to perfection. We shall see.

 

Boston would absolutely turn that down.

 

I think you guys are overrating Rondo's value. Rondo is injured. He's had some problems with teammates he didn't like.

And if you think Lin's jumper is suspect and is redundant with Harden's ball dominating, penetrating style, think Rondo. Why would we give up a great asset in Asik for Rondo is beyond me.

 

What if 2 guys taking out the trash makes the other 3 guys shoot 10% lower in TS%?

 

Just more trash to clean up mate.

 

Rockets 2001 vs. Rockets 2002.

Did we get any closer to the championship with that twin towers?

 

On the flip side, Miami spreads the floor with 5 shooters, and Lebron both gets to the rim AND finish at the highest rate of all players. There's a reason why all stat geeks love Lebron. His efficiency is off the charts despite not having anywhere close to the shooting ability that Kobe or MJ had.

And guess what? James Harden is more like Lebron than Kobe/Jordan in terms of his shot selection and strengths. To make him come off screens or post up to 18 footers is not his strength. If he develops enough to become that player, sure. But I don't think that's 2014.

 

Well, let's see:

1st) You mean 2002 vs 2003

B) Cato didn't start at PF. Eddie Griffin did

iii) The Rockets increased their wins by 17 in that year, with a rookie as one of the "Twin Towers" Which is like top 5 largest gain in one year in NBA history, at the time. And they set the record for most wins without making it to the playoffs.

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How long did Greg Smith and Omer Asik average on the court together last season?

They did not seem to get in each other's way that I could see. And they were able to feed the post with ease with that line up.

DH is a much better version of Smith.

 

Sign me up for rondo would love him on this team

 

I like the idea there are plenty of teams we can use that combo on. Howard at the 4 seems better against stretch 4s cause he is faster. Still a 4 is not as fast so its not like they are going to blow by (if he did you would still have Asik to guard rim. Against big lineups have Howard play the center with asik the 4 (Howard under basket as better rebounder). We have a team that could go small to with Parsons at the 4 Garcia the 3 or plenty other options. Give Asik plenty of minutes regardless because he is clearly a excellent backup to Howard on defensive side and I think he can match plenty of 4s in the league also. Bang with teams and make them shoot over you, no taking it to the basket!

 

Actually I meant 2003 and 2004 and screwed up the years when I typed for some reason. But as a Rockets fan I find it odd you would somehow think of 2002 and 2003, when we neither used twin towers and we got an all-star caliber player back from injury, making any comparisons pretty stupid.

But yes, I'm sure you felt that the Rockets vaunted "5th ranked defense" in 2004, as the cost of becoming the 24th ranked offense, was so worth is as we got our butts kicked by the Lakers and their obviously lesser 8th ranked defense. I wonder why we lost so handily despite being the better defensive team?

 

Stoop to what , playing their best players ?! Omer despite his lack of offense is a better player than any option they have at the PF spot .... as is Howard.


I can see a lot of high pick & rolls with Howard & Harden out top while Asik patrols the baseline .... getting easy looks as his guy trys to help on Howard rolling down the paint.

 

I don't know, why "Rondo"? There'll just be one defensive stance against the Rockets. "CLOG-THE-PAINT"! They'll just let Rondo shoot those painful long shots. They have done it with Lin, they'll do it again happily with Rondo. I'll surely grimace all season long... Rondo's highest 3p% is .313 and that's while playing with a big 3.

 

If it was that easy rondo wouldn't be a nba champion and another finals appearance rondo is not a 3pt shooter but he is a master at running a offense either fast paced or half court set and just to point out those boston teams didn't have the 3pt shooters we do other than Ray Allan and they seemed to do fine