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I think McHale should give Bev a few "trial" starts towards the end of the preseason

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Htownballer38

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    Rox23 apparently big time vpball dont want to hear that pimpn..bwhahahaha
     
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    That's not the case always, it can depend on the situation. In a bad team, there's not much competition. A highly drafted player, even though they may play poorly could be given more time and opportunity, just because they got drafted early.
     
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    McHale said in his very latest interview (yesterday, in Manila) that the point guard position is "set". He said the only unknowns were "who plays backup 2 guard", "if Asik and Dwight work" and "the pf position"

    It seems there will anyhow be Bev fans who regardless will keep saying "what if..., what if..." At this point, and for all practical purposes, the only way Bev gets the starter's job is if Lin literally breaks a leg. Remember last year how poorly Lin played the first few months and how well his backup Toney Douglas played? Still, JLin had the starter's job. Ever JLin slumps the coaching staff will probably have him work through it rather than bench him. When he is on his game JLin is just too valuable to this team, because of his play making ability...and, say he improves his D and hits 40% from 3, then he's a potential all star
     
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    BBFF = beverly best friends forever.
     
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    end of discussion Mchale has spoken.
     
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    How are you equating "free flowing offense" to "ball goes to PG's hands exclusively"?
     
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    Bottom line they don't want Harden running ISO's, even in late game situations. Here is the article:

    http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/offensive
     
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    Of course they don't.

    So how exactly does free-flowing offense equate to "ball exclusively in the PG's hands"? (by the way, it's just another way of saying ISO-PG)

    I suggest you watch some Rockets clips when Adelman was still coach. You would notice that "free flowing offense" looks like this.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/qOLOjCzWOlM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    And definitely not anything like "whomever starts at pg runs the point exclusively."
     
  9. Rox23

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    The article says they want for Harden to play more "off ball" with the challenge being for his teammates to find more creative ways to get him the ball in scoring situations than he himself taking it one on one. The problem then is, that you would need creative passers who are able to make creative passes and so that just has "Bev" written all over it, doesn't it?
     
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    Gotta be very careful! :cool:
     
  11. flamingdts

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    And there we go.

    Your logic: Team wants more free flowing offense, which means point should be ran by the PG because you need "creative passers" making "creative passes" so Harden can play off ball. However, as the only two PGs are Lin and Beverley, and Beverley is not a creative passer, therefore this means the ball should be exclusively in Lin's hands.

    Like I said, you probably don't know much about "free flowing offense" if you think it needs to have "creative passers".

    Again, I really suggest you watch some old Rockets clip, and by old I mean clips from 2-3 years ago. Luckily, clutchfans has a youtube channel with a lot of old highlights like the one above. You will see that free flowing offense has little to do with the PG being a "creative passer".
     
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    People like to use playoff game 1 at OKC to cream Jeremy. But why? You played at the defending champion's home court with all their starters healthy, with their screaming fans, and with your youngest NBA team playing the 1st playoff game away from home. Why be so surprised at the blow out loss? Check the stat line. Every one on Houston sucked in game 1. Not just Lin. Why blame the loss on Lin? He was playing well, at least at par with Beverley in game 2 until he was injured. The young team also settled down more and played a better game. It was not all because Bev changed the game himself. It was just a better team effort. After that Harden just recovered from his slump and played well, as well as Parson. Bev did his job but not that he was exceptional himself to get the wins. He had very low assists for 2 games, and was burned many times by OKC backup pg Jackson for big score. So there is no need to be too rosy about Bev starting.
     
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    You are nit picking the words "free flowing offense" in my opinion. The bottom line is that while Bev may be a better on the ball defender, Lin is still a better team defender. And there is no question when it comes to offense that Lin is the one who can beat his man off the dribble anytime, get his own shoot and has the superior passing skills. They both shot about the same 3PT % during the time that Bev was on the team last year. Check the stats for that time.

    If your starters play 75% of the minutes in a game, about 36 minutes, you want the best players on the team getting those minutes. For that reason, Lin will start over Bev, and Asik will probably start over any other PF so that Dwight can play PF.
     
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    well we got to see the free flowing offense int eh last game with the starters. Was nice to watch.
     
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    I think Lin is good form DH12, why replacing him?!
     
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    When Lin got injured . Alot of posters gloated against him. You don't see OKC gloating when their starter got injured? Alwful, just imagine if Beverly got injured, if anybody gloated on his inhjury, I would rightfully get pissed with them.
     
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    We have had enough discussion on this topic. No one should start another thread of the same topic.
     
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    That has nothing to do with what I said. I could care less whether Lin or Beverley starts, as long as the team wins and/or it helps the team win.

    My point is that free flowing offense has nothing to do with the PG exclusively running the point. And certainly has nothing to do with being a "creative passer". Maybe that's just my opinion, but I do not equate free flowing offense to Jeremy Lin.
     
  19. Exel

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    Beverley can start if they decide to rest the starters.
     
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    I feel that that is the best strategy.
     

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