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I think McHale should give Bev a few "trial" starts towards the end of the preseason

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Oct 6, 2013.

  1. Ultimate6thMan

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    If McHale starts Bev, Les and Morey get infuriated and McHale is fired at end of season. Lin pays part of H2's salaries with his marketing, plus he the better overall PG. End of story!
     
  2. jackycool

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    While I think Beverley is a very good player and he theoretically fits next to Harden better than Lin, he can't initiate an offense like Lin can. He is a phenomenal backup, but he is a backup. These talks wont end anytime soon but starting PG is Lin's to lose.
     
  3. Vpballa916

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    a chance is an opportunity, but that doesn't mean that others don't get chances either.

    Jeremy had his chance in year one, Beverley is raising eyebrows with his play and his abilities, he too deserves a chance.

    just by chance, are you afraid that Beverley will steal Lin's position? deal with the pressure, i'm sure Lin is dealing with it a lot better than you are.
     
  4. Vpballa916

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    Harden will do the bulk of the initiation of the offense. This is going to be very similar to what Kobe/Shaq did.

    Kobe gets the ball on the wing, throws it into Shaq. in our case, just plug in Harden and Howard. The role players are going to be playing around our 2 best players.

    Lin and Beverley will play more like Derek Fisher than Tony Parker.
     
  5. Htownballer38

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    I just don't understand some of you peeps logic up in here. Lin/Harden combo was top 5 last season. So how in the world yall come up with Bev/Harden combo is better than Lin/Harden. Especially when you've seen a very small sample size of Bev/Harden combo.

    You don't fix anything that is not broken. So why are you gents trying. Dont make any sense to me..bwhahahahahaah
     
  6. Vpballa916

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    Beverley is a better defender than Lin, Howard is an elite paint defender, but he's not the same Howard in Orlando who could transform a defense all by himself.

    if our guards can slow down the oppositions perimeter guys, it'll allow Howard to be even more effective at what he does best.
     
  7. kcd

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    Bev will get more minutes if he continues to play well, but why does he have to get that chance over Lin, when Lin didn't play that badly. Sorry, but Lin was here first. Until he fails, he should be given that chance.
     
  8. Knickskiller

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    lol hilarious! we got 2 threads running

    1 saying Lin is some sort of offensive BEAST and needs to be sixth man like Harden in OKC.

    2 This one BEV is should start cause he will swipe and break the legs of any starting opposing PG, which will wrap up the game.

    2 prong princer movement to get lin on the bench.
     
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    Not a dig at Harden at all, but Harden does cruise abit slow to initiate an offensive, I noticed. Most of his dimes are from transitions.
     
  10. Htownballer38

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    Lin is not a bad defender either. His defensive game improved in the 2nd half of the season.

    Bev is not shutting anybody down either. He was getting blown just like Harden and Lin.


    Our starting lineup is set. The only position that concerns me is the starting PF. Who will that be. Other than that, everything else is set in stones. barring any type of injury.
     
  11. LikeMike

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    I think the logic is not really about Beverly/Harden being better than Lin/Harden - it is more about maximizing the talents. We don`t have an instant offense guy for our second unit - and we don`t have a real offense initator for our second unit. Lin could be an ideal 6th man, using all his strengths and practically being Harden when Harden is not in the game.

    Beverlys biggest strength is his defense and his abilit to hit open shots or get the offensive rebound. He doesn`t need the ball.

    So basically the argument is: Lin is a bit "wasted" as an off the ball player next to Harden. Bev is not good enough to carry the scoring and shot creation load when Harden is out. Don`t think of it as a downgrade for Lin - he should play the same amount of minutes. Think of it more as Lin playing the Manu-role. Offense off the bench is important, as the Spurs have shown multiple times. And Manu was a way better player than Lin is right now.
     
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    Kobe and Shaq wouldn't have played the way Kobe and Shaq did if they had Tony Parker on their team.
     
  13. KlutchQT

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    Back to this....
     
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    I wish there was a way to fuse Pat and Lin into one being.
     
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    What is wrong with this? Lin start all the games and he didn't exactly play poorly overall, as someone said in the other thread, why stop his progression, why not see how he does. It's too bad for Bev, but that's the reality. He hasn't shown to be a superior player over Lin yet.
     
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    I don't know how many times I can possibly repeat that this is not about Lin or Bev for me.

    I simply think "But he was here first!" as justification to avoid competing for a spot is BS in professional sports. Sorry. *shrug*
     
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    Wrong. The coaching staff wants the ball out of Harden's hands this year to create for a more "freer flowing offense". This means that whomever starts at pg runs the point exclusively. So guess what else that means?
     
  20. Htownballer38

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    bwhahahahahaha pimpn already. I am over here laughing my butt off.

    Dont forget the Asik thread and TJones verses DMo..Who will be the starting 4.
     

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