Official 2013 Budget/Debt Limit/Obamacare Crisis Thread

They aren't. Keep trying. Cosigned Millard Filmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Warren Harding, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush, et al.

 

Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution declares that "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Republican opinions of "incompetence and a failure to lead" are a far cry from a "misdemeanor," much less a "high crime."

If incompetence and a failure to lead are grounds, then Boehner is in FAR more danger than Obama.

 

I don't see this as likely. There's no ready replacement for US Treasuries in the financial markets. I doubt there's enough comparable collateral out there for banks to use for short-term financing even if they could adapt immediately. If that goes, I'm not sure what happens next except that we'd have a great big stress test with real money.

 

Given that Bill Clinton ended up more popular than ever after impeachment while the Republicans took a hit I doubt impeachment of Obama will help the current Republican party.

 

Impeachment is far more a political process than it is a legal process. I remember hearing during the Clinton impeachment that "High crimes and misdemeanors" doesn't really have a legal definition of so theoretically Congress could impeach the president for picking his nose.

Given the politics it is possible that the House could impeach Obama on a party line vote but there is no way the Senate would agree to removal from office. Remember during the Clinton impeachment even with a Republican Senate there wasn't the votes for removal from office. For that matter there are probably enough Republicans in the House who would be leery of impeaching Obama for something like a debt crisis because it would rightfully be seen as purely a political move.

 

I am sure some of the House wants to impeach Obama but I doubt it will happen. I could be wrong but I am sure that even Boehnor realizes that doing so would cripple their chances of getting the Senate and possibly holding onto the House.

Part of the Republican strategy for taking the Senate is to count on low voter turnout among groups that support Obama (minorities and younger voters) the spectacle of impeachment hearings over the budget crisis would likely bring those voters out.

 

You can't make this **** up.

Representative Paul Broun (R., Ga.) agrees, and says Boehner risks an internal rebellion if he decides to broker a compromise. “America is going to be destroyed by Obamacare, so whatever deal is put together must at least reschedule the implementation of Obamacare,” he says. “This law is going to destroy America and everything in America, and we need to stop it.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360598/conservatives-wary-deal-robert-costa

 

That guy is one of the frontrunner's in the Republican primary for Georgia's senate seat in 2014. Watch the Republicans just piss away that Senate seat like they have Missouri/Indiana/Delaware/Nevada/Colorado with their phenomenal candidates.

 

I didn't watch all of maddow last night but her opening segment was how these guys are catering to the citizen's united(example) money. something i've been saying for weeks, they don't care about destroying the country themselves.

 

The Republican Party in full meltdown. LOL


Like many Republican lawmakers, Brenda Barton is furious that the federal government shutdown has forced the closure of national parks.

Barton, an Arizona state representative, took to Facebook to express her fury in a series of status updates Monday. In one, she compared President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler.

"Someone is paying the National Park Service thugs overtime for their efforts to carry out the order of De Fuhrer," Barton wrote. "[W]here are our Constitutional Sheriffs who can revoke the Park Service Rangers authority to arrest??? Do we have any Sheriffs with a pair?"

http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-de-fuhrer-barton-obama-134942788.html

 

We will see if it makes any difference in 2014, or will the nuts continue to win elections.

 

The voters are the ones responsible for sending these idiots to Washington. If only they alone could suffer the consequences due to their representatives' idiocies, the rest of us wouldn't care. As the saying goes: "sleep with dogs, get up with fleas".

It is utopia, but I kinda wish we had a civil war where we could expel all teapots into a small state like West Virginia.

Obama has no choice but to hold firm. Don't give an inch to these bastids.

 

LIVE STREAM of President Obama's speech on the Government Shutdown crisis:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/live#

 

Stolen, but deserves to be reposted:

 

So let me get this straight: Obama canceled his trip to Asia, so he could "not negotiate"?

fabulous.

oh hey! Obama's talking to reporters again!!

 

The GOP is spiraling towards extinction. :grin: