1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How Many Shots are Available to the Rockets Starting Power Forward?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jtr, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Roxs-Redemption

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    5,729
    Likes Received:
    4,200
    anyone know what happened to Marcus Camby?
     
  2. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    Old age.
     
  3. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    "a PF from another team TBA"

    " 33 minutes is an "arbitrary" figure, as you yourself stated" And what figure should I have chosen. I was attempting to keep it simple. Explicitly stated in the notes: "It would have been more accurate if I had used the actual player minutes from last season. " I can accomplish that trivially. In about 3 minutes from the data I have stored in a DB. I stated that it was a basic post so simplifying was a prime concern. Nuff said.

    " My knowledge of STDDEV tells me you are an outlier when it comes to self-importance." OK. since you have such an intimate knowledge of STDDEV can you tell me why I pointed out its importance to the future analysis of this data?

    [​IMG]

    You have demonstrated absolutely no knowledge of the subject. Not an iota. You have a history of snarkey one line posts. Why am I spending this amount of time replying to your post?
     
  4. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    I did not say that good sir. It is obviously JCDenton. I only claimed to father this insignificant thread.
     
  5. rolyat93

    rolyat93 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Messages:
    6,354
    Likes Received:
    460
    Illy Vanilly
     
  6. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    Yep. Father time.
     
  7. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    8,517
    Likes Received:
    2,851
    Snarky one-line posts like this I directed to you?

    "These are cool. Thanks. As for the bubble graph, am I seeing Chris Andersen>LaMarcus Aldridge? Chris Andersen>Dirk Nowitzki? Chris Andersen>Pau Gasol? Chris Andersen>David West? Mike Conley>Tony Parker? What is this graph exactly? Still cool though."
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=244488&page=2

    Yeah, that was before we got to know each other.

    You should know that mixing arbitrarily chosen numbers with historical data adds an order of complexity; it does not make things simpler for educational purposes.

    OK, so let's get your revised calculations using historical data for MPG. . . .

    I'm still wondering about your criteria for using pre-2012/13 data in your calculations. Are you going to provide that, or is it part of the "black box"?

    If I question your method, you think it is snarky, when the whole purpose of your post is supposedly to instruct. Well I don't think anyone should practice your method as it stands in OP. Sorry if that bothers you.

    How about we save the STDDEV discussion until after you fix your original post? You're asking me to predict your use of STDDEV when your initial calculations are unpredictable.

    As to whether I'm snarky or not, I'm content to let everyone else in this thread judge which of us is the bigger jerk.
     
  8. jedicro

    jedicro Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,749
    Likes Received:
    51
    Grabbed these from just one page of this thread.

    This is why everyone is beginning to hate you jtr. You insult and condescend to anyone who so much as poses a question about the validity of your conclusion. You go on and on about your qualifications and spit on the intelligence of everyone here. The people here are not as stupid as you think, and they're becoming wise to your elitist attitude.

    I don't doubt that you're very talented in your field, but that doesn't preclude you from being an absolute moron.
     
  9. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    You wrongly assume that I care about your opinion of me. Self confidence has never been one of my short comings.

    You can rest assured that this is my last post attempting to assist the masses understanding of basic NBA statistical analysis. I make my insights available to everyone and the obnoxious ingrates come out of the woodwork to assault my reasoning without being able to understand the basic underlying concepts. Have you and your like done justice to the average CF member? I certainly think not. They have had their one chance at gaining insight into the "black magic" of NBA stats taken away from them. And you also. Feeling good about your position now?

    If you are going to critique my future posts I recommend that you get a BS in mathematics. Otherwise I wish you well. We will not cross paths frequently. Good luck to you.
     
    #169 jtr, Oct 8, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2013
  10. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    8,517
    Likes Received:
    2,851
    Wait, the masses need you. You just conceded that your MPG figure was arbitrary, with no historical foundation, meaning that your original post was not historically accurate, just a demonstration of arithmetic. Don't go until you have done historically relevant calculations, please. Nobody can do it but you.
     
  11. Morlock O

    Morlock O Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2012
    Messages:
    1,413
    Likes Received:
    32
    LOL this has got to be one of the longest "Graph" Threads ever :D
     
  12. jedicro

    jedicro Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,749
    Likes Received:
    51
    Firstly, that assumption was not implied. I was merely trying to appeal to whatever sliver of humanity you might have buried in your soul by showing you how disrespectful you have been to everyone here.

    Secondly, you do care. Otherwise you wouldn't be getting locked in a flame war at 3 in the morning.

    You misinterpret healthy debate as "obnoxious ingrates coming out of the woodwork." Any hostility directed at you was merely your own arrogance being reflected back.

    BTW, if you check my post history you will see that I have almost always sided with you (though I didn't really care for the main ideas of this thread, but that's neither here nor there) My beef with you now has very little to do with the substance of your arguments, but rather your disrespect for your fellow fans.

    In my experience there's no such thing as luck.
     
  13. jedicro

    jedicro Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,749
    Likes Received:
    51
    .....

    AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA....

    Leave.
     
  14. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    I may reconsider in the future, but this is my one and only basic statistical analysis post for at least six months. I have had my fill. Everything for a while will be cloaked within advanced mathematics or incredibly intricate programming. I will make an attempt to sum them up in layman's terms, but you may have to remind me of this promise. I can be incredibly OCD when it comes to big projects. Best to all.

    And just to be crystal clear, I do not enjoy explaining basic concepts. I just viewed it as my duty to the members of CF.
     
  15. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    Meh... The only Black Magic of NBA Stats that we need is:

    [​IMG]

    Some people seem to consider 7th grade math to be "advanced mathematics" and Excel graph creation to be "incredibly intricate programming."
     
  16. jedicro

    jedicro Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2008
    Messages:
    1,749
    Likes Received:
    51
    [​IMG]
     
  17. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    8,517
    Likes Received:
    2,851
    Dude, don't feel bad. I was running all my posts through a Cray Supercomputer. You were bound to go down. Stick around for more laffs. It's all good.
     
  18. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,566
    Likes Received:
    620
    I'll FIGHT U ALL 1V1 IRL
     
  19. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    Your lack of understanding is only exceeded by your ignorance.

    And you have never gone into a DiffEQ course and had the professor tell the class that they will be proving their way through a course that can easily be summed up in a half a page of hand written notes.

    You have never entered an Abstract Algebra class and had the professor announce that the course has been to easy and it would now be taught according to graduate course standards.

    You really have no training in mathematics do you Carl?
     
    #179 jtr, Oct 8, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2013
  20. cmlmel77

    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,312
    Likes Received:
    5,202
    The sad part is that someday you will look back and realize how insanely arrogant you sound. Or, more likely, you won't, which would be even sadder.

    You might stop and consider the possibility, jtr, that there are many, many people at least as intelligent and mathematically savvy as you claim to be on this board.

    Your whole 5 years of six-figure salaries are impressive. In another 10 or 15 years you might gain the maturity to see that your self-appointed status as the one person who can untangle the "black magic" of advanced statistics is as tiresome as your self-appointed martyrdom and transparent attempt to get people to come to your defense ("I may reconsider ... you may have to remind me").
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now