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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. Surfguy

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    What was the significance or meaning behind when Walt left his watch atop the pay phone? Was he basically saying "I won't need this any more as my time is up so someone else might as well find and use it?". I don't even remember the watch before that scene. He could have left it for Junior when he last went to see Skylar?
     
  2. stthomsfinest

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    Here you go. At 11:06 Gilligan explains the watch.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/bK3i0X_1pFk?t=11m6s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  3. Nick

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    It was a birthday gift from Jesse... but Gilligan explained it afterwards in talking bad (from another message board):

    "Vince Gilligan explained the truth behind Walt leaving his watch on the pay phone is that they shot the scene of Walt making the number 52 out of bacon first and he was not wearing a watch. They then had to explain why in one scene he is wearing the watch and in the next scene it is gone, so they shot this scene of him leaving the watch on the pay phone after. If you want to know the artistic reason of why he did it, Gilligan explained that Walt leaving the watch behind was because it was a present from Jesse who had betrayed him and he felt he didn't need or want it anymore."
     
  4. Surfguy

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    Thanks!

    The only thing I wish happened in the finale was just more wrap-up after Walt's death. I wanted to see reactions by all the people tied to Walt upon learning of his death. I wanted to see Hank's wife get some closure learning the truth about how Hank died and how Walt avenged his death. I wanted to see how Junior would react given the hatred he showed at the end. I wanted to see if Skylar would be more relieved than sad. I know we can assume how they would react. I just wanted the total wrap-up after Walt's death. I also felt Jesse just taking off after was unrealistic and the DEA was still looking for him. They knew he was involved with the meth and would have been able to easily tie him to Walt. And, of course the police would find either the DVD of Jesse confessing and/or the DVD Walt made. I wanted to see who would show up to Walt's funeral. lol. My opinion is that, even though they ultimately decided all that was unnecessary, I think it would have ensured even more closure for the fans. I just feel I'm still wanting. I wish the finale would have been extended to two hours to cover more. But, I'm sure some of you will disagree with me on wanting to see all that. They spent so much time building up these characters that the ending kind of felt rushed to me. It was still a great ending, though.
     
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    After the Nazis & Todd died, there is no one that can fully assure Marie/Skylar/Jr that Walt was not involve in the killing of Hank. Well, maybe Jesse, but they won't trust him and why would he talk. Yes, they'll find bullets in their body that can tie back to the Nazis, but that doesn't mean Walt wasn't the one who ordered the kill.

    I think everyone other than Skylar will view the massacre as King pin has disagreement with his subordinates and they fought it out. No one will know or believe Walt went there for revenging Hank. I'm not sure Skylar bought it either, or even cares.
     
  6. Rox11

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    Not at all rushed to me, timing was spot on. In the end Walter could probably care less about what people say, that is why he still walks over to the lab to take credit for everything from start to finish. All he cared about was his pride and work. As viewers i really disliked Hanks wife, only cared about Walt's immediate family....who in the end will never understand the full story.
     
  7. Angkor Wat

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    Yall think it was "Walt" or "Heisenberg" that saved Jesse? I think it was Walt, one last time.
     
  8. heypartner

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    Well, we can't be sure he wasn't planning to kill Jesse, too, with his spray-gun, M-60, Jack in the Box surprise. I'd say only when he saw Jesse was a slave did he consider saving him. Then, yes, tackling Jesse to the floor was Walt. Plus, he gave his gun to Jesse with full willingness to be killed by Jesse at that point. That's not really Heisenber.
     
  9. SmeggySmeg

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    they addressed this in talking bad, he clearly was going to kill him based on the idea jesse was in Partnership with the Nazi and then when Walt saw Jesse was enslaved he made the call to save him again......

    jesse really should have got in that Tarago, if he did the boy who made him not get in it would still have his mum
     
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    ^^awesome.

    why does the jesse drawing suck so bad/fail to capture him anywhere near the degree of the rest
     
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    Definitely the greatest show I have ever seen. Just more intense than my previous favorite (The Sopranos).

    I liked the ending a lot. I think it was fitting. Wasn't really a shocker but it was simple. There are a few items I wonder about.....

    1. Huell? After Gomez and Hank dissapeared, Huell would become the big link.
    2. Was Brock poisoned via Fruit Loops? Is that what the scene in the 6 or 7th episode intended? (
    3. What was the Gray Matter scandal or reason for Walt leaving?
    4. Does Walter Jr. ever smoke meth?
     
  14. juicystream

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    I don't think Heisenberg was in the episode. The whole episode was a man that had come to terms with everything, and he set out to fix what was still "fixable".

    Personally, I did not enjoy the finale. They set my expectations too high for there to be no great surprise.

    If anything was surprising, it was the decision to use the Schwartzs to get the money to his family. Other than that, it felt very predictable.
     
  15. juicystream

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    1) Yeah, weird how he never got closure (neither did his buddy, IIRC)
    2) We never did get a good enough answer, but I certainly thought that scene was hinting at how it went down.
    3) Love triangle
    4) Doubtful
     
  16. HR Dept

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    FIFY.
     
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    Every other drug.
     
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    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/v...ad-immortalizes-badfingers-baby-blue-20130930
     
  19. dandorotik

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    Springsteen had the idea for this back in 1997:

    Sinaloa Cowboys

    "Miguel came from a small town in northern Mexico
    He came north with his brother Luis to California three years ago
    They crossed at the river levee when Luis was just 16
    And found work together in the fields of the San Joaquin
    They left their friends and family
    Their father said "My sons one thing you will learn
    For everything the north gives it exacts a price in return."
    They worked side by side in the orchards
    From morning till the day was thru
    Doing the work the hueros wouldn't do

    Word was out some men in from Sinaloa were looking for some hands
    Well deep in Fresno county there was a deserted chicken ranch
    There was a small tin shack on the edge of a ravine
    Miguel and Luis stood cooking methamphetamine

    You could spend a year in the orchards
    Or make half as much in one ten-hour shift
    Working for the men from Sinaloa
    But if you slipped the Hydriodic acid
    Could burn right thru your skin
    They'd leave you spittin' up blood in the desert
    If you breathed those fumes in

    It was early one winter evening as Miguel stood watch outside
    When the shack exploded lighting up the valley night
    Miguel carried Luis' body over his shoulder down a swale
    To the creekside and there in the tall grass Luis Rosales died

    Miguel lifted Luis' body into his truck and then he drove
    To where the morning sunlight fell on a eucalyptus grove
    There in the dirt he dug up 10000 dollars all that they'd saved
    Kissed his brother's lips and placed him in his grave"
     
  20. BE4RD

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    I'm probably in the minority on this, but I did not like season 5 at all, or the finale.

    Season 4 was a TV masterpiece. The plot lines and attachment to the characters was great, and the payout in the finale was very satisfying.

    Season 5 felt like some kind of weird alternative DVD ending. It felt rushed. It wasn't nearly as satisfying. Things took a dark turn purely for the sake of darkness.

    Seasons 2-4 were probably the best TV I've ever seen, though, and nothing will diminish that.
     

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