ClutchFans Game Thread: Pelicans @ Rockets 10/5/2013 (PRESEASON)

Oddly enough I do other things. For instance I write detailed analysis and advanced stats threads. A couple a month. Some even become almost universally accepted on the board.

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And I do try to get fans to go beyond constant ball watching during games.

 

Is this game going to be replayed on NBATV?

 

I agree with all your post and specially the DMo part. It's not that he is better than T-Jones, it's that he won't take any shots away from our other starters and he seems to know what needs to be done. TJ is a good player but his team awareness is pretty low. That would come in handy with Asik, where he can be the low post threat Asik is not.

 

Someone masturbates to their own threads...

 

Court vision.

 

ohh stop Linsanity didnt end with Chalmers. People forget the next regular season game after that Lin dropped 20-10 on Kyrie Irving in a blowout victory.

People need to stop overreacting....got 2 words for you...Reggie Jackson.

 

Oddly enough you have your head strong opinion about certain players.
You cannot acknowledge for instance players enough that were constantly praised by teammates (Howard, Lin, Harden), Friedman, and coaches.

Tjones for that matter.
Cherrypicking stats for yourself does not help either.
Every prospect has good aspects to offer. At the end whoever makes most progress will be utilized more.

Moreover the roster will look different once they figured how to make this team even better.

 

Also, Miami was trapping against Lin in that game; it was team defense aimed at stopping Lin. Bev, on the other hand, was shutting Holiday down all by himself. It was truly an incredible couple of minutes. To be honest, I'm not sure I've ever seen an all star humiliated like that one on one.

Personally, I like the idea of either Lin or Harden being on the court at all times. Therefore, I think they should stagger the minutes so that Lin is subbed for early, giving a fully energized Bev a chance to attack the opposing starting point guard after he's already starting to wear down a bit.

 

Well someone didn't watch the heat game. Trapping? Lin's handles were already shaky during Linsanity. EVERY game, he would get pick pocketed in the backcourt at least once. It was a ticking time bomb and it exploded against the Heat when he actually faced a decent defender who pressured him. His weak handles were exposed and Miami's team defense were good enough to prevent him from scoring as well. Seeing Jrue getting pick pocketed multiple times by Beverley looked exactly like Lin in the Miami game hence my comment. Obviously Lin's handles have improved some since then, but I haven't really seen a PG get embarrassed so bad that they couldn't even dribble past the half court line since Lin's game.

 

Lin wasn't that bad against Chalmers. George Hill this recent playoff run vs. Chalmers and Cole was dreadful compared to Lin.

 

the Knicks had gone totally dysfunctional(as usual) at that point and Melo was intent in snuffing out Mr colonel sanders. It's no secret that Melo wanted Mike D out.
Lin so happened to be in the middle of it. once Mike D was out, Melo started teamballin again and Lin continued contributing as normal. The proof is out there. just go check the games.

they even have a word for it in new york - Melodrama

I hope we don't ever devolve into this sort of disgusting antics here in the Rockets.

 

It wouldn't work against an elite PG like Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, or Chris Paul, who would blow past defenders the second they reach in. It does work on Jrue Holiday because he's a shooting guard playing at the point.

 

So Melo told Lin to throw the Heat game on purpose?

Ok.

 

i don't need to convince u bro. with a nick and signature, i know your purpose here is to troll any reasonable debate on Lin. The videos are out there and people who followed the knicks game during that period saw it for themselves.

Anyway alot of folks here got this idea that 'linsainty' is lin driving to hoop and dunking scoring 20 + points. For me it's him initiating offense, connecting with his team mates and the team winning together. None of this solo hero nonsense.

 

Thinking about the Pelicans' game today, I thought, the starters played really well and of course deserve a lot of credit, but the coaches deserve major props too.

Last season, seemed a lot more about improvisation. And at times like the coaches were still feeling out the strengths of different players, and even that individual coaches/players sometimes had competing visions of what would work best.

What was remarkable yesterday, (apart from seeing the early chemistry), was that it felt like everyone was on the same page. It was unpredictable, fast paced basketball ... but it was disciplined. It was premeditated. It seemed like the players had assignments for what each of their roles on the court should be, and they executed on them.

This was wonderful to see. This is not to say, they shouldn't continue to experiment. They of course should. It can't always be the five we saw yesterday on the court together, or even starting, necessarily. But it is a good sign about how in sync the players and the coaches are.

The youngest-team-in-the-NBA of last year, seems to have grown up. Fast.

 

No bro, the reason I troll (extreme) Lin fans is because they can't be reasonable. I was just making an observation about the similarity between the 2 games, which you apparently agree with judging by your response, but then you decide to add excuses when I didn't even state an opinion.

 

How can I heap more praise on Howard, Lin, Harden, Parsons and Asik? And I truly do not cherry pick stats. And if I do I would appreciate it if you would point my errors out.

Actually, I almost never post a negative comment about a Rockets player. Good luck finding one that was not aimed at a rookie (Canaan, Covington). Those two are not Rockets players yet. They are Vipers players. And I think they will succeed on that level.

I just have a different opinion about what the Rockets need from the PF. And a high opinion of D-Mo, which I am currently wavering on.

And you expect roster changes? Why? How? Are you considering the salary restrictions on trades? Are you one of those people who wave a magic wand and say LMA will be here? Don't be one of those people who conjure posts that make me want to bang my head on a brick wall.

 

IMHO D-Mo had three imperatives going into the game (probably dictated by the coaching staff).

1: Play good defense.
2: Rebound well.
3: Do not look for your own shot. Get assists. You are years away from being as productive as Harden offensively, so get him the ball.

Anyway that looked like how he played.

 

ok bro if you say .

it's the HEAT example combined with yer signature.

 

Lin is a good starting point guard. Not top 10, but probably around 15 or so. But comparing the Miami game is not correct. Lin was the subject of extreme trapping by one of the best defensive teams in the league, with wade and Lebron also focused on him. Holiday got owned 1-on-1 by Beverley. Just because some Lin fans are unreasonable doesn't mean you should keep baiting. It nay serves to continue the cycle. And yes, I'm a Lin fan. But I'm a Rockets fan and want the team to succeed first and foremost.