Obama made the error that led to congressional gridlock and the partial govt shutdown

Now they're turning on each other.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...z-Accuses-Him-of-Abandoning-House-Republicans

Sorry GOP, you embarrassed America, on the world stage, and now you own it.

 

The writer was fired for making up quotes. He cites an anonymous park ranger saying that they've been told to make things as difficult as possible? That's your quote? Not, head of Park Rangers such and such or such and such ranger at such and such park but an anonymous park ranger from nowhere. Okay.

Then let's get the details on that. Next thing you know Obama will be shutting Hooters all over Kentucky and then we've got a civil war on our hands.

Yes, people are outraged not that hundreds of thousands are out of work but that the parks are closed. You don't seem to understand how stupid that sounds.

I'll need like some real evidence of how the parks are funded as opposed to what's being closed down. Sounds to me like an intentional distraction from shutting down the government. You put hundreds of thousands of people without pay but the parks, THE PARKS, holy... I want my country back.

 

You are correct that the Republicans have offered to fund some things. However, that isn't a budget works. They can't defund ACA. The Democrats didn't shut the govt. down when the background checks to buy firearms. Just because one side doesn't get their way doesn't mean they should shut the govt. down. If they do shut the govt. down, they don't get to then bring back only certain pieces to avoid the blame for what they've done.

The fact that Democrats don't want to operate under the ridiculous idea that the GOP can fund certain things piece by piece isn't the Democrats fault. Only one party allowed the govt. to shut down. That party deserves the blame.

 

Excellent post!

 

Facts: only one party chose to issue the threat of govt. shutdown. That was the Republicans.

Because of that fact, the Democrats don't share the blame for a govt. shutdown.

 

Facts: Only one party -- Democrats led by Obama -- is trying to put fear into Wall Street in order to drive the markets down and thereby, in their way of thinking, enhance a "winning" position. Only one party spent money to barricade national monuments like the Lincoln Memorial and national cemeteries that are on open ground (Obama spent more money putting up barricades and paying federal employees to do so. I wonder if he contemplated putting a tarp over the Grand Canyon?)

Obama's actions indicate that he harbors a secret desire to destroy the United States by executive action. He has already proven he has a greater desire to negotiate with Iran, Russia, China et al than he has to deal with Congress. IMO, he just can't stand not being the Premier or Supreme Leader of the United States. He is merely the President, and he has to share power with two other branches of government, one of which is chosen by their electorates, just as he was.

 

Hitler/Chamberlain Hussein Obama is trying to destroy America!!! :grin:

 

I don't think many of y'all understand what government shutdown means.

 

It means we're missing some good weather windows for prescribed fires this week and early next. We could end up regretting this a few summers from now.

 

The first part of this has zero to do with keeping the govt. shutdown or shutting it down to begin with. Secondly, you've shown zero proof that he's trying to scare wall street into tanking. The fact that you claim this without showing even the slightest hint of evidence to back up your claim, shows that you are perhaps out of touch with reality, and much closer to the tinfoil hat crowd than I previously thought.

At best this part of your post shows that you have little understanding of how foreign policy works, or how Republicans in DC have been working, or the history of Obama working and compromising with the GOP since he's been in office. That's the best case scenario of what you've posted.

At worst your post shows that you're out of touch with reality, and again closer to the tinfoil hat wearing crowd than I thought.

Either way, best of luck to you. I wish you the best.

 

Holy **** you are insane.

 

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Thumbs, you know I respect you, but that post is simply absurd.

"Obama's actions indicate that he harbors a secret desire to destroy the United States by executive action. He has already proven he has a greater desire to negotiate with Iran, Russia, China et al than he has to deal with Congress. IMO, he just can't stand not being the Premier or Supreme Leader of the United States. He is merely the President, and he has to share power with two other branches of government, one of which is chosen by their electorates, just as he was."

One of the most absurd posts I've read in quite a while, outside of the trolls, of course. Simply absurd.

 

I honestly believe thumbs is sincere in what he posts here. He isn't trying to troll or just upset people like some of the others. I have nothing against him at all, and I'm not laughing at him, because I think he's totally genuine in his posts.

But someone who is deeply sincere in their belief of things with no basis in reality still has to be held accountable for those convictions.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-1006-page-20131005,0,7951629.column

 

Obama should have let the crazies go over the cliff when they first postured. Instead, he negotiated with them for years and conceded ground as if they were a legitimate opposition party. That was his mistake. Beyond benefits for their benefactors, these folks want nothing beyond trying to make him take public losses.

 

Congress spent a full year on committees debating over what is mostly the current ACA. This came at the expense of other political policies such as jobs, immigration, and wall street reform.

To say it was rammed down republicans throats our the other claim that it was not fully read is totally false. What happened at the votes was pre political theater.

 

been happening for sometime now.

 

when was it personal.