Surfguys comment is so right on. I'm interested in hearing more about this story... But am just pissed off every time I come in this thread.
This thread separates the normal law-abiding citizens from the mentally deranged ****wits on this board.
LOL the guy is pretty decent. He actually tried to avoid as many bikers as possible in his getaway rush. I can easily assume more than a handful of people who would reverse the SUV around and GTA that ****.
He had to attempt to smash the guy's window since the RR had good sound dampening and thought the guy couldn't hear him well enough.
Did I miss something in the video? How was he trying to be a bad ass? From what I could tell from the video the incident was 100% caused by the bikers trying to show off in front off each other. I saw nowhere in the video where the man ever got aggressive, it appeared that his whole motivation when he ran over the bikers was to flee. It appeared to me that the man was scared for himself and his family. The bikers had no right to threaten the man and his family or put him in a position where he had to make a decision to run over the bikers. Every person has the right to defend themselves by any means necessary.
The driver was lucky the bikers didn't get stabbed (potentially fatally) by the biker maniacs. If he had decided to go GTA on them, seeing the biker maniacs had knives with them, there was a pretty high chance he'd get stabbed pretty seriously. So I thought the driver did good by deciding to go all pin-ball machine on them, which upon first watching the video, I thought was an ideal choice.
There is a lot of information missing in the video for example when were the tires slashed, what happened right before the biker slowed down in front of the Range Rover and what happened right after the Range Rover bumped that biker. I can't say absolutely for sure the driver was correct in running over the bikers in his escape attempt. I am leaning that way given the level of threat that he faced when surrounded by bikers beating on his car. That said I can't say for sure that the driver didn't do anything wrong. I think it is clear these bikers from the start acted irresponsibly in taking over the road but that doesn't mean that the driver didn't also contribute to the confrontation.
Yep. I really hope these guys all get what is coming to them. This is the sweet justice that every good citizen that has had to put up with dirtbags like this has craved. Range Rover bro is a hero, and these guys are skidmarks on the underpants of society (and now also apparently on an NY highway somewhere).
They will. If not by law, by citizens. Marauding thugs will not and should not be accepted by any society. Now, having said that, I'm fully aware that "a chunk" of those bikers were not responsible for the attack, just reckless behavior on two wheels, which should also have some kind of repercussions.
Yeah, I really don't see why the punishment for driving recklessly like this should be any less than for drunk driving.
From that video: "One of the bikers slows down in front of Lien's car and Lien bumps into the back tire. Police say it was an accident." You have got to be kidding me.
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It sounds like it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_...ang-seeks-internet-glory-taunting-police?lite Dangerous new breed of biker gang seeks Internet glory, taunting police A new and dangerous breed of motorcycle gang is popping up around the country, say authorities, as packs of young bikers on high-speed “crotch rockets” barrel down crowded highways performing stunts, weaving through traffic and taunting police, all for a few minutes of Internet glory. These “crotch rocket” gangs film their exploits, which can include altercations with motorists and the law, and then post videos on YouTube. Police in New York City have arrested several men after video surfaced on the Web of a Sunday incident in which bikers surrounded and beat an SUV driver in Manhattan. The bikers had been taking part in an underground event called Hollywood Stuntz, in which bikers assembled en masse on city streets to perform wheelies and other stunts. And police say they have trouble stopping the bikers, because their machines are so fast and maneuverable that it’s unsafe to chase them through traffic. Sgt. Brian Brophy of the New York State Police said that officers will stop pursuits of fast bikes when it’s judged too dangerous. “As a trooper you end up terminating these pursuits a lot yourself, for the safety of the public, yourself and the biker,” he said. “You can’t chase them because they’re crazy,” said former New York and Los Angeles chief of police Bill Bratton, now an NBC News analyst. “They endanger themselves and others.” The packs have grown as motorcycle registrations have risen – 30 percent between 1990 and 2008 – and as new, high-performance machines that make tricks easier to perform have become available. But these packs, which sometimes come together based on little more than a Tweet or a Facebook post, are not true bike gangs in the old-school sense of the word, explains a federal law enforcement agent. They’re not rooted in neighborhoods, involved in dealing drugs or engaged in long-running feuds with other gangs, like the traditional groups that law enforcement refer to as Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs or OMGs. The “OMGs” are usually white and sometimes use violence, including shooting or stabbing, to further their cause, explained the law enforcement official. He said that the sport bike crowd skews younger, is loosely affiliated and is racially diverse. While these free-form, instant gangs may not be predisposed to violence, he said, a “mob mentality” can take over if they feel threatened, as happened in New York. Mostly, what they want to do is tricks. “They are daredevil types into high-performance bikes,” he said, “a younger generation into the rush of high speeds and splitting lanes.” And they want to do their tricks on public highways, with cameras rolling. Combine social media, YouTube and cheap, versatile handheld cameras, and you have a recipe for packs of bikers to assemble quickly, take over public streets and put the results on the Web for the world to see. In amateur videos posted on the Internet over the past several years, packs of bikers can be seen shutting down a California freeway for a marriage proposal, blocking the Brooklyn Bridge and harassing a driver in Queens. ... Dennis Cardwell, who started a mass ride in Missouri called Ride of the Century several years ago, says he’s no longer associated with the ride, in part because the numbers and behavior spiraled out of control. The yearly event now draws as many as 2,000 riders. “We never thought it would get to the size that it has,” said Cardwell, 35, who no longer rides. “All of us would be scared on the highway with these large groups. A lot of it was younger kids who were newly into bikes and willing to take any risks, including popping wheelies at high speeds.” Cardwell blames improved bikes and improved cameras for the spike in stunt videos on the Web, saying “technology is really the main culprit.” Advertise | AdChoices “Now you’ve got camera phones, video phones,” he said. “You can post in seconds. That was what started the whole craziness of it all.” Kevin Marino of Akron, Ohio, who started a stunt-riding group in the 1990s and runs a website called Starboyz where bikers post videos, also says that the rides and videos are trending upward -- and that the rides are becoming dangerous. “There are rides where there are thousands of people. … Now there are so many bikes, bikes are hitting each other,” Marino said. Like Cardwell, he said that technology had made the boom possible, making tricks easier and cameras more accessible – but he made particular note of GoPro cameras, which can be mounted on helmets. “Everybody wants to be a movie star,” he said. “The GoPros are crazy. You’ll go on these street rides with 500 people and half the people will have GoPros.” In New York City over the weekend, one of the members of a pack of motorcyclists driving up the Henry Hudson Parkway in Manhattan used a GoPro camera to capture an altercation between the bikers and the driver of a Range Rover. When a biker slowed in front of the SUV, the vehicle hit the bike. The vehicle then stopped, and the motorcyclists surrounded it. Apparently believing he was in danger, the driver, Alexian Lien, then sped away, seriously injuring motorcyclist Edwin Mieses. Mieses is now in a New York hospital with internal injuries, crushed legs and possible paralysis. The bikers chased Lien up the highway and to an intersection, where, as his wife and daughter watched, he was pulled from the car and beaten. Police have arrested 28-year-old Christopher Cruz, the individual who allegedly slowed his bike in front of the SUV, and charged him with reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. A second man was arrested and then released. The bikers had assembled for an informal event called Hollywood Stuntz that drew a swarm of motorcyclists from around the region. The NYPD said it was aware that the bikers were coming and had concentrated on steering them away from Times Square. Even before the Range Rover assault, 15 bikers were arrested, 68 summonses were issued and 55 bikes were seized. Fellow rider Kevin Marino defended the motorcyclists. He said that although the violence against the driver was “obviously wrong,” the bikers were not acting as a gang and were reacting to an injury. “Half those guys probably didn’t know each other,” he said. “Someone just got run over. They went to see how he was doing.” Dennis Cardwell said the incident “made me sick to my stomach,” and that he understood the SUV driver’s fear. “I would have panicked too, especially if I had my wife and kid in the car." "Now I have three kids, I understand what it’s like to be on the highway to be in a car with my kids and my family,” said Cardwell. “You understand why people were mad at you when you were young.”
Is this NYC? If so this has been going on for some time, and the mayor should be held accountable for allowing this to continue! ....... ....... .......
If the police can't handle those hooligans then in my opinion you have every right to run over them, IF they try to hurt you/family or damage your vehicle! The blatant disregard for authority/law by these gangs must be dealt with or it's only going to morph into all out frenzy of violence between people who are fed up with this type of behavior and the morons who perpetrate it..... ....... ....... .......
it was in the outskirts of Queens, so yes. I'm not sure the mayor of New York City allowed any of this to happen. it is obviously a problem that the police force in the nation's largest city has been dealing with for some time.
If my family were threatened by a gang, I would have done the same. In fact, I would have put the car into reverse and hit them again so they can't follow us.
Look at them. They do not look like the brightest bunch around or even educated beyond grade school. Some are over 40 and riding crotch rockets and even off road bikes which is illegal on public roads.
So watching what happened there. The bikes ran a red light while the car attempted to go when he had the green. The bikes get angry because how dare he follow traffic laws when they are on the road, and surround him and bang on his car before going on their merry way to probably go touch each other while watching videos of themselves doing wheelies.
