Dude... It's a ****in TV show. Gus is my favorite character in the whole series. Also loved the aryian brotherhood. Doesn't mean I really like the aryian brotherhood
holy cow..I never even realized that and I love Valley Girl. Here's a pic of him that works...(with the blond hair) interesting notes - He's from Texas. Bowen is the half-brother of Robert and Keith Carradine. His nieces are actresses Martha Plimpton and Ever Carradine. . . . . .
Heard this on the final insider podcast from Sir Vince about a scrapped idea that was so twisted it didn't even make it to script. This is something he pitched to executives around season 1 that they found too disturbing to put on the air. It was early on, because it involved the death of Jesse, which we all know didn't end up happening. So there would have been this big, mean, tough drug dealer who had killed Jesse. This character later became Tuco, although some elements of him were included in later antagonists. Walt is so furious about Jesse's death that he kidnaps the drug dealer and locks him in a basement. It wasn't made clear if this was the basement of the White's house, but I believe it was just the basement of an abandoned house nearby. Anyway, the drug dealer was tied to a chair, and Walt had rigged this rifle to a tripwire, and pointed it right at the drug dealer's heart. The guy could trigger it at any time and kill himself. Every day at the same time, Walt comes by and cuts off a piece of the dealer, cauterizing the wound with a blowtorch or something, his plan being that eventually the dealer will be so demoralized that he'll pull the tripwire and kill himself. But the dealer is such a badass that he just lets Walt keep torturing him, and refuses to kill himself. So one day, Walt Jr. stumbles across this basement somehow. By this point, Walt's cut off like half the guy's limbs. He's up to the knees. And good kid that he is, he tries to help the guy, who is passed out when he comes down. The guy's eyes flicker open, and he says, "Who are you?" to which Jr. responds with his name. Realizing that this is Walt's son, he waits for Jr. to get close to him, and then he pulls the tripwire, killing both of them.
WTF, I'm glad they didn't really consider that. The point of the show was for Walter to go from Mr. Chips to Scarface in several years, not for him to go from Mr. Chips to friggin' Jigsaw in one season.
Too much, too fast. I couldn't even see this happening once Walt has completed his transformation into Heisenberg.
man...this was a wonderful show..in the past 2 weeks, i finished watching season 1 all the way up to season 5 episode 8 last night. wow... This show is really uncomfortably addicting. Terrific actors, and just a very well written story. I dont wanna read any of the spoilers and cant wait to finish the rest of the season some time this week.
I hate to nitpick because this was a great show (best I've ever seen), but I got to put in my 2 cents regarding this article. Btw, thanks for all these articles, agreeing with the authors/content or not, they are great read. Do not agree with what the writer says here. I guess it comes down to the "Is it Nature or Nurture" argument. This writer is saying Walt did not change because his nature is evil where as Vince's & I think majority of us is saying Walt DID change because of his environment (nurture). Walt did not set out to create an empire, he wanted to make money for his family. Somewhere along the way his goal changed. Walt changed. So, you agree that he did change. Ok, I can understand fans blaming Walt for Jesse's misery, but even the writer(s)? Do they not see all Jesse's faults? They are the ones who wrote them. Just because Jesse is Walt's b!tch, it doesn't mean he is innocent. I think they could've had 8 more episodes. There were still many stories to tell. They could've been : - Back stories about Jack & Todd, like the article Jack (Michael Bowen) did. - How Skylar & Jr deal with everyday life. Jr being picked on by others because he is Heisenberg's son. - Relationship between Skylar & Marie - Adventure & misadventures of Jesse & Todd. If they can do an episode on fly between Walt & Jesse, I'm sure these guys can come up with one for Jesse & Todd. - Walt & his misadventures. He could've used his smarts to handle different short stories while in purgatory. - Walt & his back history with Grey Matters. - I think they can even sprinkle some Saul stuff in there. I think Vince & the writers were running dry on ideas so they don't want to ruin a good thing. I'm "satisfied" with them ending here, but I really think there are still many stories that could be told. IMHO, Heisenberg doesn't just define a ruthless kingpin, it also defines a person who is so smart that he can always find a "solution" at a pinch. I feel it is that "quality" that they could've explored more in other story lines. Would that have cheapened the series, maybe, but not to me because to me BB is all about White/Heisenberg. If Walt didn't have cancer, would his true nature come out? I doubt it. On a side note: One thing that bothered me (slightly) is hearing Breaking Bad broadcasts where Vince & the rest keep saying "You should no longer root for Walt", but they kept giving us "excuses" for liking/relating to him in the show. I'm just wondering are they doing that (the speech) to cover their @ss, not wanting to promote immorality?
You see, the whole thing is that this is one writers' opinion. So, he's going to see things differently than others. And sometimes, what comes out of that is an unintended effect on fans- like wanting to make Walt a bad person but also retaining that intelligence characteristic of his- to be true to the character- that appeals to people. It's tough. I'm writing a screenplay right now and I have no idea about the overall meaning, character motivation, etc. It's tough enough getting the plot down and making sure everything is consistent. My main character is a mix of humor and depression, and it's tough to balance those out. I don't want to make him too sympathetic b/c he does bring on some problems himself, but he has brain damage so there's only so much I can do to affix blame to him- because the readers/audience are going to empathize with him regardless of how I try to develop his darker side (which isn't really that dark, but a little bit).
I like everything just fine but I think there should have been more episodes... just make the 2nd half of the current season a new season with 12 episodes. I needed to see Walt alone, in despair, at an all time low a lot longer than they showed. That sequence was too rushed. I wanted the return of the "new" Heisenberg to carry even more weight, by showing Walt at his lowest for a few episodes. Jesse being held prisoner... that was what, 20 minutes worth of time TV-wise? It's hard for me to feel his hatred and agony when he's barely been trapped for very long in the viewers eyes. I have to make that leap in my head. And it's fine, it's still great, but if it was executed over the course of more episodes it would have been better. I imagine he slowly went crazy down there for awhile. Also, the long gap between the season. It's brutal man. The loss of momentum is jarring. As a viewer I'm left confused. I get that AMC uses this strategy to grow the fanbase but it negatively impacts the product. Man Mad will go on a 1 year hiatus during it's break, that will be brutal man. Anyways, everything was great and I'm happy but I think just 4 more episodes would have gone a long ways. There's good fast pace - like Dark Knight, but there's also bad fast pace - feeling rushed.
I think that's a problem with the network and production. AMC only wanted 6-8 episodes for season five. We're glad we got 16 out of it. Yeah, the pacing these final two episodes felt rushed in comparison to the rest of the show, since there was such a time lapse. But, the writers were able to complete Walt's journey. There are more stories to tell, many more angles to see from the fallout. I wish they could expand more, but I'm satisfied with the ending.
