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The play action isn't working anymore.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by fchowd0311, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. CoolGuy

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    does schaub have the ability to audible? How did he not check out of that play when the safety came up to the line to blitz on the side he was intending to roll out to?
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Teams adjust.

    Kubiak needs to counter with something.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Never said he was RG3. Said he used to be more mobile. The WCO depends on the defense trying to play the run and the pass on the very same play. When Schaub Rolls out now, defenses aren't ever worried about him running because literally he can't outrun a out of shape DT any more. He can't move, so if the defense doesn't bite on the fake then it's going to be a failed play.

    Remember all those times we used to run this play and it seemed like someone was ALWAYS open down the field? Well why sink in to the QB when you know he can't outrun your slowest member on your team any ways? -9 yards rushing? For a QB in this offense that's pretty terrible. Even for Schaub standards that's terrible.

    So they played no good teams in 2011...like the Ravens? Bengals were 9-7 that year and you're calling that bad? titans, 9-7....Falcons 10-6...Saints 13-3...steelers 12-4...WTF are you talking about? Every year your schedule is tough, nothing is given in the NFL and no team has such a cakewalk schedule that they play no one tough.
     
  4. vinsensual

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    I think it's finally become this. Offenses have to keep evolving because defenses usually adjust in a year or two. Spread offenses made nickel corners more of a premium position. Secondaries are getting bigger to match the size of the taller WRs and TEs. Teams take bigger chances on guys like Poe and Irvin because that level of physicality or speed was unheard of before. The read option and inadvertently the bootleg are getting easier to handle because DCs have those physical freaks play the QB specifically.

    Ideally I think we still believe a balanced offense can flourish, but not when the passing game they use feels so limited. Limited I guess referring to the predictable TE flats, WR comebacks and short underneath stuff, all of which seem to be drawn up to be 2 yards short of the line to gain.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    No one seems to know for sure. Kubiak says he can audible to only one other play if he sees something he doesn't like.

    If so, he DEFINITELY should have killed that play when he saw the blitz coming from the right side. The whole play is designed to go to the left and him to roll to the right. That means he's totally exposed if they blitz from the right -which of course they did. Hell, with the game on the line, call a timeout if you need to. Or just take the sack and keep the clock moving. DON'T THROW THE BALL.

    It's becoming more and more obvious that the way to beat the Texans is to BLITZ THE **** out of them.
     
  6. rocketsfeeva

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    Idk if this has been discussed already but I was listening to 610 this morning and they played clips of kubes and Matt discussing audibles and by the sound of it nothing is gonna change. Sigh...
     
  7. Nick

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    There's maybe only 2 or 3 QB's in the entire NFL that routinely turn audibles into "good" plays. Schaub isn't one of them.

    The rest of the QB's who attempt audibles usually make either wrong decisions, or just end up confusing the offense even more.

    Just like not every person who plays football has the ability to become an elite coach... not every NFL QB has the ability to recognize a defensive adjustment at the line, and audible to a more successful play.
     
  8. rocketsfeeva

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    I should clarify. I believe the question asked to Schaub was if he would ever yell out "bluff" audibles to deceive the defenses and he replied something along the lines of there's no point in hollering out fake audibles because the offense already knows what to do.
     
  9. ryano2009

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    been doing that **** ever since he got here, am kinda surprised that it lasted that long
     
  10. meh

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    According to Kubiak, no.

    http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...nference/339d1d2a-c54d-4eb2-b884-f3f03779dac4

    So either Kubiak is covering up for Schaub being an idiot for not audibling out of that play, or Kubiak honestly doesn't let Schaub audible out of bad plays. No matter the case, we either have a coaching fail or QB fail. Not exactly happy about either scenario.
     
  11. vinsensual

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    They're tied at the hip so it's the same for me. I can't separate what Matt does on field as either crappy development from Kubiak or bad instincts and cowardice from Matt. This whole time I've been lead to believe Matt was a smart QB.
     
  12. J.R.

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    Houston has a problem: Its offense

     
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    I think it has a lot to do with we have been down in all of our games once we get a lead and teams know we can run the clock out they will bite like they always have. Since they are ahead they are Not allowing us to pick up large chunks of yards on the roll out. Instead The outside contain is staying with qb instead of going flat down theline t to make a play on rb from the backside.
     
  14. TheRealist137

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    They had a lead against Seattle and Schaub/Kubiak still somehow managed to ***** it up
     
  15. TheDr34m

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    When was the last time we actually ran a successful bootleg for any positive yardage it seems like so long ago. Jeez.
     
  16. J.R.

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  17. Chef_Monteur

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    The O-line is garbage this year, even Brown is underperforming. If you're going to have a garbage O-line you need a QB who can either scramble really well or a guy like Big Ben who is hard to take down and good at passing under pressure. Schaub can do neither of these things, he just falls down on the ground the second he feels pressure and he has poor anticipation.

    It doesn't help much that Foster is pretty much done now that Kubiak has decided to run him into the ground. Leading the league in carries is perhaps the worst stat to lead in when it comes to the NFL. Foster will be out of the NFL in the next year or so. So much for that awesome contract he got from us, a contract that crippled our team. Its insane that any team would invest good money in a RB, its basically the worst investment to make in terms of risk vs potential reward. Tate is going to bounce to another team in free agency.

    Our offensive weapons are limited, AJ isn't getting any younger, either. Kubiak can keep clinging to that massive play sheet of his, but the reality is that opposing teams are neither confused or scared of his play calling. The size of the play sheet does not matter when teams can predict when you will run the ball and when you will pass it. With the Texans, its been pretty simple under Kubiak. Run, run, pass, punt, run, run, run, punt, run, run, pass, pass, run, play action, red zone fg, run, run, run punt......etc etc.
     
  18. Raven

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    This is a very interesting point.
     
  19. Ziggy

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    I agree. You don't pay or draft RB's. But Foster's contract has hardly crippled the team. It's not all that wild of a number. Judging the Texans based on history, if we had more cap room, we would have probably used the money to resign James Casey and Quin. Quin I'd like to have, but losing a guy like Quin is typical of any team in the league. It's part of the ever changing puzzle.
     

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