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Official 2013 Budget/Debt Limit/Obamacare Crisis Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. bucket

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    This. Why not just, you know, not shut the government down?
     
  2. B-Bob

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    The House of Representatives IS making us like Greece by virtue of their behavior. Pathetic.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Good morning!

    The senate has a chance to keep our government running today, as well as give the country time to take a common sense, responsible look at the health care situation, which is so vital to our country's well being. I hope they choose what's best for us.
     
  4. Air Langhi

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    Or how about they fund a program that they already passed.
     
  5. mc mark

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    For the slow among us.

     
  6. Major

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    It's a amusing that people think a continuing resolution should have policy. The whole point of a CR is to temporarily fund the government while Congress sorts out spending bills. Why anyone would be stupid enough to think Democrats would trade a year of Obamacare delays (or defunding) for 6 weeks of funding through Nov 15 is beyond me.
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Its a shame that the GOP-controlled House didn't choose what was best for us and keep our government running while taking a responsible look at our health care situation, but instead, played partisan football... worst, childishly put the government at risk since they could not come up with a real solution to our health care situation so they risked our government continued operations.

    Hopefully, responsible republicans reject the extremist Tea Party temper tantrums... and if they have new and better solutions to our country's problems, including health care, present them for consideration instead of trying to hold the country hostage because an existing law didn't go their way...
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Have the bills run over the budget?
     
  9. Major

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    I'm not sure what you're asking here.
     
  10. Major

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    We already see how this is going to end - the House GOP is just going to cause some chaos in the meantime.

    Shortly after House Republicans unveiled their latest gambit targeting Obamacare in exchange for funding the government, Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) went off-script by throwing his support behind the Senate bill, which is known as a clean continuing resolution, because it continues government funding without major amendments to other legislation.

    "Let's see what the Senate sends back," Dent told reporters Saturday. "If they send back another clean CR, I suspect -- again, I'm not making a decision on what's going to be on the floor -- a clean CR would likely to be on the floor at some point."

    "I’m prepared to vote for a clean resolution tomorrow," he added Sunday, according to The New York Times' Jonathan Weisman. "It’s time to govern. I don’t intend to support a fool’s errand."

    Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), deputy majority whip of the House, told reporters that the decision to pass a clean government funding bill belonged entirely to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

    "He didn't mention it, but I'm sure he could if he wanted to," Cole said as he emerged from Saturday's meeting.

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    Even those insisting they would support nothing less than a one-year delay of Obamacare conceded there were enough votes to pass a clean continuing resolution in the final hours.

    "I think there's enough people in the Republican Party who are willing to do that. And I think that's what you're going to see," Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho) said on NBC's "Meet the Press," while maintaining that he himself would oppose such a measure.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/house-clean-continuing-resolution_n_4014229.html

    The only real question is how much damage the House will do before doing it.
     
  11. mc mark

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    Enough to make Americans see we can't trust them with control of the house and we must vote for a democratic majority in 2014
     
  12. leroy

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    You mean the Act that was signed into law 3-1/2 years ago? The one that republicans have yet to put forth any decent alternative other than to continue one with millions of people remaining uninsured? You need more time?
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    absolutely. need more time. It was passed on a straight party line vote and the people do not support it. This is a critical opportunity to get it right, let's not ramrod it down the public's throats just to give Obama what he thinks is his only achievement while in office. Let's apply some common sense here and put pride to the side.
     
  14. Major

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    You'd think if the GOP was interested in "getting it right" during this "critical opportunity", they might have offered some kind of viable alternative sometime over the last 3 1/2 years. Or especially so during the last election.
     
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    3-1/2 years to offer something better. What's your plan?
     
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    Cruz talked 21 hours and didn't put forth anything, don't expect anything but continuing unsupported negative criticism from our resident Obamatroll.
     
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    A "fools errand". What a concise and accurate description of the Tea Party efforts to derail the Affordable Care Act and our government in the process. Kudos to Charlie Dent, GOP congressman from PA. Hopefully more republican House members also come to their senses...
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    lousy response from you
     

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