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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. cardpire

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    yeah, i don't understand why people would think that the meth talk wasn't THE major takeaway from that. why else would it be necessary to add that in? it's pretty damn easy for him to figure out what they did with jesse. he's the smartest guy hank had ever known for goodness sake.

    i'm hoping that the entire purpose of that scene was to show walt that he has become a national villain, and is reviled by anybody and everybody close to him, and to make him realize that the nazis broke his deal and are enslaving jesse.
     
  2. dandorotik

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    You know, I wish that I had Jessie's girl!



    (not)
     
  3. durvasa

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    I'd need to rewatch it, but didn't it show his angry facial reaction to them discussing his lack of a role with the company? The way it was edited, his anger over that slight seemed like an important takeaway to not be dismissed (whether it results in Walt actually going after them in the finale, I can't say). And, again, knowing that he's been obsessively tracking this company's net worth for years and believing that they owe all their success to his ideas, its understandable he'd be furious over that. There's a parallel between Grey Matter and the meth business takeover by Jack and Co. -- in both cases former partners are making millions off of his innovations.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    Yes, got carried away. Sorry about that.

    Could end in any number of ways. Maybe, rather than killing the Schwartzes, he does something with the stock that plummets Grey Matter? I have to admit being pretty ignorant about stocks, and I don't think they want Trading Places to be the movie they emulate in terms of the ending, but I'm wondering if there's a way he could use some of his money to pull this off? Thus, the $100 bill being symbolic that he left for a tip at the beginning of the first episode of this season?

    Anyone with knowledge of the stock market know how this would be done? Walt's this whiz with numbers, can he do anything with the stocks to bring them down?
     
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  5. delta69er

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    I see Jesse surviving at the end because:

    1. He will have to become Brock's caretaker

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    2. He will be the only one who can really clear Walt, in a sense, from the notion that he's the one who killed Hank. Like Gilligan said, all the loose ends will be tied up in the end and this is, imo, the best way to tie up this specific loose end.

    Now, how he survives? IOENO
     
  6. delta69er

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    Well, Walt certainly knows a lot about Grey Matter and probably a lot of their company secretes. I would imagine that if Walt somehow got these company secrets out in the public or perhaps to another company, it would cause the stocks of Grey Matter to plummet.

    I don't think killing the Schwartz's is what Walt wants, I think to humiliate them the way he feels that they've humiliated him is the endgame here.
     
  7. cardpire

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    Become Brock's caretaker? They are of no relation. It's the son of his short-term ex-girlfriend who he met at an AA meeting. Something tells me he wouldn't be too high on the list of people who Brock is given custody to.
     
  8. RocketFire

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    I think this might be the reason why WW is so pissed off.

    1. When they mentioned about the blue meth that is still being distributed in Europe, WW realized that Jessee is alive and helping Meth Damon cook blue meth. He is pissed off.

    2. Now when he hears the Schwartz talk smack like WW was nobody and that he didn't contribute anything to graymatter except for name, WW was pissed again.

    Now hear is the thing....WW realized that he had made a mistake earlier by giving up his stake in gray matter by being nice and soft and that Schwartz took advantage of all his mighty fine work...Now there is noway WW/Heisenberg can make the same mistake again and let these Nazis/Lydia get away with cooking his beautiful creation and do not give him any credit. Hence, he is pissed and going to go and first (eliminate Jessie and Nazis = Jesse is the only one that can cook pure. Take him out and no more blue meth) and second after killing Jessie, WW goes to Lydia and tells Lydia to meet him up at coffee shop because he is the only person left that can cook pure meth and then slip the ricin and end her game.

    What do you guys think?
     
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  9. RocketFire

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    Sorry for too many spelling errors, need to go to sleep.
     
  10. cardpire

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    I rewatched it. Seemed like hearing about the blue resurfacing and in Europe is what sent him over the edge.

    Also, speaking of odes to movies...a possible Usual Suspects tribute in this one with Gretchen saying "He's Gone" and a cut to the police narrowly missing apprehending Walt? Or just a mere coincidence?
     
  11. MoonBus

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    From what I saw, it was definitely the Schwartz that turn Walt back to Heinsenberg, but at the time of watching, I didn't think about the ricin. As other posters have mentioned, the ricin may still be for Lydia, but I will be disappointed if there is no closure between Walt & the Schwartz after that scene.

    In addition, I'll be disappointed if Jr, Skylar, & Marie never knew where Hank was buried and that Walt did not kill him. I don't think the writers will let Walt die with that guilt hung over him.

    I agree with the no way he'll let the Nazis off. But as others have said, it makes no sense Heinsenberg can go Rambo on the Nazis, it will be a Failed for me if they do that. If he go into Nazi territory, there is no way he will make it out alive and still be able to contact Lydia.

    Good catch, it wouldn't surprise me if this is what the writers were going for.
     
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    I'm also of the impression that it was their dismissal of the idea that he contributed to the company that set him off. Could be mistaken, but that's how I saw it.
     
  13. Commodore

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    theory going around that Walt will use the ricin to poison a Grey Matter product and sabotage the company
     
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    I just hope walt jr. dies, he's worse than carl.
     
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    I felt the second-to-last episode was kind of weak. The finale better wrap all this stuff up. Walt's got a lot of people to off as his old company founders and ex are now on his hit list I guess.
     
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    the ending was epic

    Walt is going heisenberg mode because his product is still on the street. The gray matter comes into play because its the second time someone is taking credit for HIS work. He was the brains behind gray matter and the blue meth was all him. Hes coming for jack and his crew no doubt but he may very well be coming after gray matter as well. He's got nothing left. The finale will be epic
     
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    They're rushing this last half season.
     
  18. Kojirou

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    First, how is Walt going to realize that Jesse is alive? There's blue meth? Todd can do that - he can't do it as well, but it's not like Rose ever discusses the meth's purity. Maybe it's a bit odd that he's still cooking when he has $70 million, but than why would Jesse be cooking anyways?

    Second, I've seen people act like Walt cares about Jesse, that somehow the idea that the Nazis have enslaved him is going too far. I take the opposite approach. IF Walt figures out Jesse is alive, he'll want to kill him himself. Because the Gretchen interview will want to make him protect his legacy, his meth....and Jesse is the last person left who can really steal said legacy.
     
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    Personally I re watched it and he gets pissed way before they start talking about the resurfacing of blue meth.

    He clinches his tissue when they say his contribution goes no farther that the simple name of the company.

    However, realizing that he already lost one "empire" and doesn't want to lose another one may direct him towards destroying his meth business.

    Could the ricin be for Jesse? The only one capable of cooking close to as good as him?
    If Jesse dies, the meth business is done.

    And I don't see how the ricin could be for Gretchen and her husband.
     
  20. Pull_Up_3

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    not sure if srs

    walt agreed to teach todd how to cook if they killed jesse for him, meaning that todd cant cook blue meth. Who else could teach todd how to cook blue meth if it isnt walt himself?
     

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