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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. Zboy

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    I wish Jack's men had ransacked Hank's place AFTER the feds dropped off Marie. :(
     
  2. IPSAC

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    At a group therapy meeting, Jesse recounts being inspired by a high school woodworking teacher. At first, Jesse slacked off on the class assignment, but eventually he created an intricate box, which he says he gave to his mom. When the group leader suggests that Jesse take art classes, Jesse interrupts. "I didn't give the box to my mom," he admits. "I traded it for an ounce of weed." source: http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Kafkaesque
    Do you think this could relate to Walt in a way? He created an intricate empire to obtain money, which he would pass on to his family as a gift. But instead of giving the money to his family, in the end Walt trades it for something else?
     
  3. fallenphoenix

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    maybe he knows jesse is the only one who can make it like him, so he put it together that the nazis didn't kill jesse
     
  4. cardpire

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    Because I'm stupid, silly!

    I never said that I don't understand it. The resident fan fiction writers said that. I said I could care less about any future (final 60 minutes of the series) on-goings between Walt and the Schwartzes. Ricin em, never have contact with them again, who the hell cares? It lacks impact to suddenly inject them into the final episode after being insignificant/non-existent characters in the TV show for the past 55 episodes. They were in nobody's conscience a minute before the end of the penultimate episode of the series, but because Walt saw them on an episode of Charlie Rose, they are now major players in the final episode? I don't care how much sense you want to make of it in hindsight. It would be disjointed, in my opinion, and would be a bizarre/unnecessary departure from every major storyline that has been building up to a fever pitch this season.
     
  5. Cannonball

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    They already kind of did the Godfather montage with the killing of Mike's men in prison. Everybody killed simultaneously while the mastermind is off doing something else.
     
  6. Cannonball

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    But they don't mention the quality of the meth. Walt knew that Jack and Todd were making meth for Lydia. The mere mention of the meth still being out there shouldn't make him believe Jesse is still is alive as he would just think it to be Jack.
     
  7. Cannonball

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    You watched Talking Bad and Vince's tease, didn't you?
    The tease was "woodwork".

    Good work putting 2 and 2 together.
     
  8. cardpire

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    Sure, except for the fact that they already did that with the prison murder montage.

    You may have missed that episode.
     
  9. IPSAC

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  10. cardpire

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    Beat me to it.
     
  11. Commodore

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    so what is motivating Walt now that his family wants nothing to do with him?
     
  12. Cannonball

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    Revenge for Hank's murder?

    Hank's death is the reason his family turned on him. It's why he had to flee. Up until Hank was killed, Walt believed that things could still be worked out so that he could live. In Walt's mind, if Hank isn't murdered then they find some resolution. Skylar and Flynn don't turn on him because Hank isn't dead. The cops/DEA don't get called and he doesn't have to flee. Walt blames Jack for killing Hank, for his son hating him, for the cops being alerted, and for him having to spend 5 months in solitary confinement in Nowhere, New Hampshire.

    And while Flynn is hostile to him, Skylar may not be. He still made all that money for them, and even though his son is upset, he still wants to find a way to get that money to them.
     
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    You're right. Who knows how these things end? It's not as if it has to imitate another film or show, anyway. I kind of get Cardpipe's point- it's the same as Jack's gang being the villains for the final showdown instead of Gus- they came in relatively late in the game, and now they're in the final? But maybe that's the point.
     
  14. IPSAC

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    Killing Jesse? Getting revang for hank?
     
  15. IPSAC

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    *revenge*
     
  16. dandorotik

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    Which one was that?
     
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    Gives up the money to another party in exchange for them helping murder the Nazis maybe?

    Todd gets killed with Uncle Jack being forced to watch. That's my fan fiction addition/prediction. And I'd be surprised if Walt dies in any way other than locked up, alone, broke, and of cancer.
     
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    Well, there's a quick change of attitude.

    I mentioned somewhat of the same deal about the Nazis a few weeks back, but it makes sense. Associating with these guys happened to be the bad decision that caused his demise and forced an end to the story. Random, no doubt, but it certainly works.
     
  19. fallenphoenix

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    they did mention that it's in europe now. lydia mentioned that the people in europe only wanted heisenberg levels of meth and todd wasn't able to acquire that purity. only jesse could make the meth to their satisfaction.
     
  20. durvasa

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    Depends on how its done. I agree it would feel disjointed if they allot a significant dose of screen time to following the Schwartzes and their demise in the finale. Too much other stuff to cover, seemingly.

    But that's not to say the idea of Walt wanting revenge against them wouldn't make sense story-wise or doesn't fit thematically. It absolutely does, in my view.
     

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